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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back uh tonight we are going to

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be bringing you a very exclusive story a

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story that no one else has and today I

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was quite honestly surprised and left

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wondering

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why do we live in a world of copy and

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paste journalism and what do I mean well

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uh if you Google this new alleged UFO

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whistleblower's name

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you will find hundreds of cut and copy

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and paste articles all just copying and

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pasting things from the original debrief

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release

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which I find incredibly disappointing

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we make it our policy here to try at

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least if we're going to cover a story

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that other people broke first to bring

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new information to the table to do some

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investigative work to bring something

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new to the story

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and sadly it seems like even big media

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Outlets uh are just copying and pasting

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the story uh and we have seen today an

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increase in the number of media Outlets

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who are

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taking this story and running with it

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but unfortunately I have not found one

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media Outlet not an independent media

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Outlet not an alt media Outlet not a

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major

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you know Legacy I call television Legacy

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Legacy Media Outlet

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none of the people who are covering this

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story of this alleged UFO whistleblower

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or adding any new information to the

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table and I think that that is

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incredibly uh sad it's a sad world we

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live in where people just copy and paste

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from the original story you know add a

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few lines in there so that we can say

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it's a transformative work but no new

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information being brought and I wondered

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why some of these media outlets for

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example Vice or others and by the way

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that's probably a bad example I'm not

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specifically aware of Vice covering the

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story but I mean them in his example or

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Fox News or

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um you know redacted uh some of these

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bigger YouTube channels as well they're

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just copying and pasting the story

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they're not bringing any new information

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to the story luckily

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I happen to have some friends in the

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Canadian media

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and uh reached out to them

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or I should say one reached out to me

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and then I started reaching out to other

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members of the Canadian media that I am

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familiar with and friendly with

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and uh was given this information in

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this exclusive story tonight by multiple

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sources most of which are from the

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Canadian media members and interestingly

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uh some people were given this

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information in the Canadian media

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um but as you can imagine they thought

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it was a Fantastical story and they

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couldn't believe that what they were

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hearing was actually said in closed-door

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meetings with members of the Canadian

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Parliament

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um but it would appear that yes exactly

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this is what happened that members of

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the command Canadian Parliament met with

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this man David Gersh and several other

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people you may be familiar with

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but before we begin tonight's exclusive

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whistleblower just a correction from

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last night because it would appear uh

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that last night I made quite an error

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well uh an error in naming someone

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because John Mack and Bud Hopkins uh are

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two of perhaps the most famous alien

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abduction researchers in history and I

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often confuse their names and so I did

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so last night but names are important as

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well as facts so just a correction last

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night I incorrectly stated that Leslie

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John Mack that was incorrect she did not

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have a romantic relationship with John

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Mack she had a romantic relationship

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with the other famous UFO Abduction

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researcher Bud Hopkins she had a

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long-term romantic relationship with Bud

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Hopkins not John Mack she also lived

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with Bud Hopkins for years so please uh

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know a good part of making a mistake

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like that is next time I will get it

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David grush is a former military officer

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and intelligence officer who made

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Fantastical claims recently he claimed

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that there are illegal secret projects

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involving the recovery of non-human

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craft including debris intact craft and

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even perhaps non-human bodies from those

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alleged crashes

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he claimed he was told this information

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from other high-ranking intelligence

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people who claimed to be involved with

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these projects and that these projects

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he additionally claimed that he was

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given documents and oral testimony from

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these other Intelligence Officers as

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proof but has yet to make this so-called

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uh and now we know a little more about

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why because apparently the defense

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department cleared him to talk about

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what he wanted to talk about but not use

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any pictures or visual aids uh so that

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may be why we did not get to see any

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pictures of alien spacecraft pictures of

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alien bodies I'm not aware that he has

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them but that would sure be interesting

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to see and I think would go a long way

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in convincing people that this man's

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information is actually valid and

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correct and not just another chase the

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UFO alien carrot story like we've all

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heard a thousand times before

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now as far as uh David Crush in his

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history I began yesterday trying to dig

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into this man's background and history

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and strangely I noticed while Googling

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his name David Grouch uh something very

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strange

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and that was that his former life seems

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to have been scrubbed entirely from the

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internet now I found uh various examples

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of this and it appears that in April

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David grush this alleged UFO

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whistleblower resigned from his

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government position and planned to go

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public as a so-called UFO whistleblowers

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and talk about these matters

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perhaps because of his plans to soon go

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public it appears that Mr Grouch started

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wiping every mention of himself and

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picture of himself from the internet

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sometime in early May we've been able to

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find multiple examples of websites

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related mostly to his business ventures

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where he or someone deleted those pages

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and pictures and the information they

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contained were deleted

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but luckily because of the way back

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machines and things like Google cachet

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we're able to find that information

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um but to be quite honest with you I'm

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not sure that this is something

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important uh these were things such as

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pages of a business that he apparently

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owned with his wife doing mobile notary

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in the Colorado Springs area or being a

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real estate agent in the Colorado region

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I'm not sure why he or someone related

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to him or associated with him or

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I'm not sure if it was him who deleted

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those pages it's hard to it's hard to

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make that determination uh without

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having him available to ask questions to

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so we don't know who deleted those pages

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those pictures and that information

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and In fairness to Mr Grouch it could

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just be to he did this to protect his

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privacy and the privacy of his family

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something that I certainly don't fault

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him for however uh the other side of the

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coin is uh you know I remember thinking

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why would you delete your entire history

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off the internet unless perhaps another

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possibility is that you were attempting

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to stop people from looking into your

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background and again uh it would appear

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that this information was scrubbed from

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the internet shortly before uh

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shortly before he came out as a

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so-called whistleblower so

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um I'm just gonna share my screen here

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and give you uh one example this is a

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page that was deleted from the internet

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it says David Grouch David and his wife

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are former military family that have

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found a home in Colorado David is our

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go-to guy for the mountain town

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transactions on our team there is

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nowhere that he wouldn't drive to to get

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the job done on their days off David and

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his wife enjoy hiking and the outdoors

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with and and would certainly uh agree

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with him on so this is a page where he

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provided mobile notary services for

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those unaware if you need a notary

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public somebody to notarize something

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for you there are people that will drive

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right to your home and and put that

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stamp on legal documents for you

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being involved in real estate it kind of

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makes sense that he would also be a

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notary many people who are real estate

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agents are also notaries so that they

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don't have to hassle themselves getting

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things notarized they just do it

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themselves once uh legally able to do

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that but why would this man wipe a

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record of him being a mobile notary

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um it doesn't really make sense to me

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and I'm going to show you after shortly

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after May 2nd and I have multiple

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examples of this shortly after May 2nd

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clear I don't know why this man deleted

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all pages related to his businesses and

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and other things I also did a very deep

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search for social media sites and found

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none uh now this could be because he's

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never had social media sites I have a

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few friends that refuse to go on Twitter

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just refused to do it and you know

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they're probably better men for it

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because it's a huge time drain on many

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people sitting there scrolling social

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media during the day

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um I'm not sure if he had social media

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sites and deleted them but I was unable

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to find any any social media sites

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whatsoever for him which today in

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today's modern world of everybody being

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on social media is a little bit strange

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uh to me it's a little bit strange

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but it could be that he just never had

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social media sites what I can verify is

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that

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all mentions of this man being a mobile

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notary and also this man being a real

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estate agent in Colorado were scrubbed

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from the internet shortly before he went

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so one can speculate as to why he did

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that without benefit of being able to

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ask him myself all we can do is

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speculate and people are speculating and

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some people are speculating that he did

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that to prevent anybody from finding out

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anything about his background he just

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wants the story that he's putting

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forward that information out there and

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no other information about his life his

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history his family or whatever

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but again having experienced becoming a

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public person through this show

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I can't blame anybody

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who was not a public person decided to

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become a public person I can't blame him

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I really can't blame him for scrubbing

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his his stuff from the internet

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um unfortunately

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uh all the attention that this man is

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going to be getting people would

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probably find him maybe some wackadus

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would show up on his front door to talk

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to him about the alien spaceships who

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knows maybe out of an abundance of

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caution he did that but it's worth

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noting uh that if we get this timeline

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correct this man apparently retired from

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his government job in April and then

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sometime in early May decided to scrub

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all of the information available once

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available about him on the internet

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decided to scrub all of it

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um

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and again I'm not sure why that was done

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but it's I think it's it's a part of the

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story that people should be aware of

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um you know part of me thinks if you're

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going to be transparent you wouldn't do

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that if you're really on the level and

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honest and you're going to be

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transparent

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you wouldn't try to conceal things from

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your background from people who are

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trying to background you know do some

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background checking

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um while working on your story now it's

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also interesting however that some

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people uh this comes from Jeff Knox

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we're able to find some mentions of him

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that he was not able

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um to scrub from the internet and these

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are related to his government service

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and here is where it gets interesting

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because

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apparently

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this

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is a mention of him uh relating to

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space force and not just space force but

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also relating to the uh X-37B

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um third space experiment

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experimentation Squadron the third SES

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is space Force's Premier Organization

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for conducting space-based demonstration

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and experimentation and here is where it

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got interesting for me because uh the

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third space experimentation Squadron is

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also responsible for something that I am

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intimately interested in and that is the

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X-37B

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experimental space shuttle like uh it's

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it's it's a spacecraft and this

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spacecraft

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is in my opinion absolute 100 proof of a

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secret space program when people say

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there is no secret space program I

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always tell them to look up the X-37B

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this is very very important because

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essentially this means that this man

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David Rush was involved in the secret

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space program

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and uh I know that may be a bit of a

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stretch for some but when you are

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intimately aware of this X-37B platform

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and what they are doing with it well I'm

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not intimately aware I am

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interested in what it is that they're

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doing with this X-37B essentially this

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is like a drone space shuttle uh but the

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difference between the space shuttle and

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this thing is that this does long-term

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space missions and they leave this thing

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up in orbit for literally years at a

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time and no one is allowed to know what

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it's doing up there

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many people have theorized that this

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thing is servicing spy satellites many

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people have theorized that this thing is

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monitoring foreign or adversarial

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satellite technology

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uh or space launches observing space

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launches of our adversaries like the

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Russians the Chinese and even the

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Indians

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um from you know

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so I just think it's interesting this

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man David Crush

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does this add to his credibility to be

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in or knowledgeable of secret projects I

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have to be honest and say yes it does he

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is involved in the very group that

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handles uh this X-37B secret spacecraft

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um and we can argue whether there's a

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secret space program I don't argue with

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people I tell them to look up this exact

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thing that this man was involved with

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apparently or allegedly well not

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allegedly he's on the list he was

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definitely involved in uh secret space

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projects for the United States

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government including these experimental

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flights of the X-37B which again this

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thing stays in orbit for years at a time

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and none of us uh you know peasants us

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taxpayers are allowed to know what is it

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doing up there for years at a time

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nobody knows not definitively people

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have theorized many things including I'm

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aware of aircraft and Aerospace

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historians who have told me different

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things about what that thing's really

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doing up there but mostly it's

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speculation only the people directly

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involved in this project people like him

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this so-called or alleged UFO

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whistleblower David grush would know

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what this thing is doing and uh I just

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think that's an interesting part of the

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story now

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um the reason that he couldn't I

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apparently wipe that information from

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the Internet is because it was on

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government websites not websites that he

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owned or had administrator access to or

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the ability to delete anything now

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let's get back to uh the the actual

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story here our exclusive story of uh

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alleged UFO whistleblower Dave groosh

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uh meeting with members of the Canadian

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Parliament I have this confirmed today

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from multiple sources all of which were

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members of the Canadian media one of

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which who covers the Canadian government

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um and and like I said perhaps because

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of his plans to soon go public it

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appears that Mr grush uh started wiping

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every mention of himself from the

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internet in early may but we've been

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able to find multiple examples of

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websites where they were deleted

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um

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to be clear I think it's important to

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note that for whatever reason Mr grush

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deleted

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pictures of himself and information

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about himself and his businesses uh it's

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also interesting that he didn't get all

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of it and we've shown you a few mentions

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that he could not delete from the

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internet because they were on government

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websites now

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I have confirmed the information

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concerning him having meetings actual

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meetings with Canadian Parliament

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members with multiple sources again

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sources in the Canadian media who cover

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the Canadian government or Parliament

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um and these are sources that I trust

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um

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and in the case of one Parliament member

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um I have multiple sources confirming

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this meeting who named the parliament

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member and we're going to share that

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with you tonight in our exclusive story

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and I also have one source not multiple

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sources uh that have told me that this

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man Mr grush and his associates

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who would be Dr Gary Nolan and Ross

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coldthart were in multiple meetings that

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week with other Parliament members the

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meeting took place these meetings

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of this alleged UFO whistleblower David

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grush and

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Gary Nolan

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of Stanford University and Ross

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coldthart they took place just a few

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weeks ago starting the week of May 15

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2023. so it appears that shortly after

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purging the internet of his business

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pages and pictures of himself

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I think wherever possible

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David grush

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then went on a special trip to Canada to

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attend meetings with perhaps multiple

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members of the Canadian Parliament

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uh interesting uh there were a few

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people there also

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in on these meetings that you may all be

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familiar with they were also present at

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those meetings with members of the

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Canadian Parliament those other

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individuals besides David grush this

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alleged whistleblower would be Dr Gary

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Nolan of Stanford University he was

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present at those meetings physically in

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person and so was David grush also

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present at those meetings was none other

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than the person now selling his story or

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one of them and that would be Ross

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culpart

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uh we'll just call them Australian

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journalist I'll leave out the

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my personal feelings on Mr coldhart for

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the purposes of this story uh and Ross

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culpar was included in those meetings by

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phone or teleconference just so just to

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be clear Dr Gary Nolan and David grush

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were there in person in the room with

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the Canadian Parliament members and Ross

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coltar was included in those meetings by

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phone or teleconference now I want to be

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very clear here in that I have confirmed

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with multiple sources that David Rush Dr

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Gary Nolan and Ross colthart on the week

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starting May 15 2023 met with opposition

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party member and member of Canadian

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Parliament Larry McGuire

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now Larry McGuire was a name that was

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familiar to me and it may be familiar to

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you because Larry McGuire is the

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Canadian Parliament member that you may

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recall has previously met with Luis

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Elizondo several years ago

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now I try to confirm uh because I had

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suspicions quite honestly that it may

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have been Luis Elizondo who arranged

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this meeting between Canadian Parliament

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member Larry McGuire and Dr Gary Nolan

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this

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whistleblower but I was unable to get

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confirmation that Elizondo had anything

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to do with the arrangement of these

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meetings I have heard rumors of that but

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I cannot confirm that

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um you may recall that Larry McGuire has

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previously met with Luis Elizondo

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several years ago

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I was able to confirm with multiple

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sources

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um

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and you know you can go and look uh

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there are articles about Luis Elizondo

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meeting with this same Canadian

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Parliament member several years ago

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Larry McGuire it's known that Luis

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Elizondo has met with this Parliament

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member previously

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and that Parliament member Larry McGuire

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spoke positively about his experience

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with Mr Elizondo though I believe that

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um the parliament member Larry McGuire

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was extremely misinformed about Mr

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elizondo's original claims of running a

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funded 22 million dollar Secret Pentagon

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UFO program because it turns out uh that

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program was not funded it wasn't secret

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and uh depending on who you asked that

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program only existed in the imagination

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of Luis Elizondo

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so you may be curious what happened

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during the meeting with Larry McGuire Dr

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Nolan Ross coulthart and this David

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grush

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well apparently I was told that Dr Nolan

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00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:53,520
and Ross colthard apparently helped

565
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:55,260
David Rush

566
00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:57,779
this alleged UFO whistleblower go

567
00:29:02,750 --> 00:28:59,820
through many of the same claims he

568
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:02,760
talked about in the original debrief

569
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:04,860
story

570
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:08,159
um interestingly I have confirmed also

571
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:12,240
that David Rush did not give these

572
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:14,700
Canadian Parliament members any photos

573
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:17,760
documents or any proof of his claim

574
00:29:24,289 --> 00:29:21,360
he only provided his oral testimony

575
00:29:27,710 --> 00:29:24,299
along with some testimony and stories

576
00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:27,720
from Dr Gary Nolan and Ross coltar

577
00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:31,020
also uh one interesting note that I

578
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:34,500
found uh important is that apparently

579
00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:36,120
during the meeting with Canadian

580
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:38,580
Parliament member Larry McGuire

581
00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:42,360
Dr Gary Nolan and David grush this

582
00:29:47,630 --> 00:29:44,940
alleged UFO whistleblower started

583
00:29:49,070 --> 00:29:47,640
talking about one part of David grush's

584
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:49,080
claims

585
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:52,080
and they were both quickly stopped by

586
00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:55,020
Ross colthard who was very concerned and

587
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,480
told them that they had to save that

588
00:30:01,850 --> 00:29:58,799
part

589
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,860
for the documentary I'm going to say

590
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,360
that one more time apparently during

591
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:05,760
this meeting Dr Gary Nolan and this

592
00:30:10,610 --> 00:30:07,919
alleged UFO whistleblower David grush

593
00:30:12,730 --> 00:30:10,620
started talking about one part of David

594
00:30:15,409 --> 00:30:12,740
Rush's claims

595
00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:15,419
and they were quickly stopped by Ross

596
00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:17,100
Colpar who told them they had to save

597
00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:19,740
that part for the documentary

598
00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:21,480
I was told that the meeting was very

599
00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:23,520
long and that the Canadian Parliament

600
00:30:28,010 --> 00:30:26,039
member Larry McGuire took the meeting

601
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:28,020
and the information that he was

602
00:30:33,529 --> 00:30:30,659
presented with by David grush Ross

603
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:33,539
goldthart and Dr Gary Nolan very very

604
00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:35,340
seriously

605
00:30:40,610 --> 00:30:37,140
it should be noted that I reached out

606
00:30:42,649 --> 00:30:40,620
earlier to today uh to the offices of

607
00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:42,659
Larry McGuire for further comment but as

608
00:30:46,370 --> 00:30:44,460
of the time of this broadcast no one

609
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,380
from his office has returned my call

610
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,720
with any further comment

611
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:51,120
additionally friends and this is where I

612
00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:53,760
have to tread very carefully

613
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:56,460
so let me be clear I have one source

614
00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:00,000
that is from the Canadian media who

615
00:31:04,370 --> 00:31:01,740
heard about this because they cover the

616
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:04,380
Canadian Parliament and they told me

617
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:07,380
that David grush Dr Gary Nolan and Ross

618
00:31:12,830 --> 00:31:09,480
colfar not only met with Canadian

619
00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:12,840
Parliament member Larry McGuire but

620
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:15,779
these three also met that week with

621
00:31:20,269 --> 00:31:17,940
other members of the Canadian Parliament

622
00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:20,279
all of them were opposition party

623
00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:23,940
members so just to be clear I have

624
00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:26,520
multiple sources confirming that Dr Gary

625
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:29,580
Nolan Ross Colt art and this alleged UFO

626
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:32,820
whistleblower David grush definitely met

627
00:31:37,010 --> 00:31:35,580
with Canadian Parliament member Larry

628
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,020
McGuire

629
00:31:41,330 --> 00:31:39,360
and I have shared with you the details

630
00:31:43,549 --> 00:31:41,340
that I was made aware of about what took

631
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:43,559
place at that meeting largely David

632
00:31:48,289 --> 00:31:45,080
grush told

633
00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:48,299
uh gave similar claims to what you have

634
00:31:53,330 --> 00:31:51,000
heard him already claiming in the

635
00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:53,340
original debrief story and these clips

636
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:56,580
that they're slowly delving out from

637
00:32:02,210 --> 00:32:00,240
Ross Colpar and again uh you know just

638
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:02,220
to be clear so I have multiple sources

639
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:04,020
confirming they definitely met with

640
00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:07,080
Canadian Parliament member Larry McGuire

641
00:32:12,289 --> 00:32:10,740
and I have one source I I don't like to

642
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,299
share information unless we have

643
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:15,120
multiple sources confirming a story so

644
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:16,740
I'm being very clear with you and that I

645
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:19,440
have just one source also a member of

646
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,320
the Canadian media who told me that they

647
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:24,240
also met with other Canadian Parliament

648
00:32:28,010 --> 00:32:26,340
members of the opposition party that

649
00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:28,020
week and shared the same information

650
00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:31,260
that they shared with Larry McGuire

651
00:32:35,690 --> 00:32:34,140
uh I was given some details about the

652
00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:35,700
individuals within the Canadian

653
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,260
Parliament that they also met with

654
00:32:41,930 --> 00:32:39,840
including their names but at an

655
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:41,940
abundance of caution I won't be

656
00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:43,919
revealing those individuals names or the

657
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,600
details of those meetings until I can

658
00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:48,480
get additional sourcing or hear back

659
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:50,520
from their offices I have contacted

660
00:32:56,409 --> 00:32:53,399
these other Canadian Parliament members

661
00:33:00,590 --> 00:32:56,419
that apparently met with David Rush

662
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:00,600
Dr Gary Nolan and Ross coltar

663
00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:02,940
um but I feel very strongly knowing the

664
00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:04,620
One Source Who provided me with this

665
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,260
information that they indeed spent a

666
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:09,120
week there in Canada meeting with

667
00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:10,500
various members of the Canadian

668
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:13,380
Parliament again all opposition party

669
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:14,700
members

670
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:17,279
I was told that everyone involved in

671
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,360
these meetings uh took David grush and

672
00:33:25,610 --> 00:33:23,760
his the information he was sharing with

673
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:25,620
these Canadian Parliament members very

674
00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:28,140
seriously so take from that what what

675
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,580
you will

676
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,159
and because of these new Revelations I'm

677
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,320
left honestly with more questions than

678
00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:37,080
answers and sometimes things are best

679
00:33:42,889 --> 00:33:39,720
put in the form of a question so I would

680
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:42,899
publicly share some questions I have

681
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:45,480
like why isn't American intelligence

682
00:33:49,549 --> 00:33:47,340
official meeting with members of the

683
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,559
Canadian Parliament

684
00:33:55,549 --> 00:33:52,559
in non-public meetings and sharing

685
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:55,559
stories about UFOs aliens and the

686
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,519
alleged recovery of alien spacecraft

687
00:34:03,049 --> 00:34:01,440
another question I have is why are

688
00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:03,059
former United States intelligent

689
00:34:09,050 --> 00:34:06,179
officials including David grush and Luis

690
00:34:12,829 --> 00:34:09,060
Elizondo meeting with members of foreign

691
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,839
governments at all and for what purpose

692
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:15,119
another question did Louis Elizondo

693
00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:17,040
arrange those meetings between these

694
00:34:21,470 --> 00:34:19,560
people and the Canadian Parliament

695
00:34:25,849 --> 00:34:21,480
members he had a pre-existing

696
00:34:27,409 --> 00:34:25,859
relationship with uh the with one of

697
00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:27,419
these Parliament members that he met

698
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:29,940
with previously Larry McGuire so did he

699
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,580
arrange this meeting for this so-called

700
00:34:36,169 --> 00:34:34,679
whistleblower with this Parliament

701
00:34:38,270 --> 00:34:36,179
member

702
00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:38,280
it's a big question and I think it's an

703
00:34:42,169 --> 00:34:40,200
important one because if Lou Elizondo

704
00:34:45,050 --> 00:34:42,179
was involved in arranging these meetings

705
00:34:47,629 --> 00:34:45,060
between these people it shows that Luis

706
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:47,639
Elizondo is directly involved or it

707
00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:48,599
would show

708
00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:51,419
that Luis elizado is directly involved

709
00:34:56,810 --> 00:34:54,179
in the rollout of this so-called

710
00:35:00,250 --> 00:34:56,820
whistleblower and now we know for a fact

711
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,260
that Dr Gary Nolan is directly involved

712
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:02,880
apparently in the rollout of this

713
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:04,980
whistleblower we already knew that Ross

714
00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:07,619
colthard was directly involved in the

715
00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:10,020
rollout of this whistleblower

716
00:35:15,230 --> 00:35:12,420
and now apparently we know that Ross

717
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:15,240
coltar is very concerned about some

718
00:35:21,290 --> 00:35:18,480
documentary he will soon be making with

719
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,300
this alleged UFO whistleblower and he

720
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,160
wants to save the good stuff for the

721
00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:26,640
documentary apparently so despite claims

722
00:35:30,829 --> 00:35:28,140
of this being earth-shattering

723
00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:30,839
information Ross coldthart is still

724
00:35:35,390 --> 00:35:33,300
holding cards close to his chest hoping

725
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:35,400
to cash in on the documentary with this

726
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,560
whistleblower and stopping him from

727
00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:40,079
sharing information

728
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:43,140
with a Canadian Parliament member during

729
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,720
a non-public meeting

730
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:48,000
another question I think that is very

731
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:50,700
very important that we should ask here

732
00:35:58,670 --> 00:35:54,720
is simply this is Mr David brush being

733
00:36:01,490 --> 00:35:58,680
paid by anyone including Mr Elizondo

734
00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:01,500
is he being paid by Ross coltar Leslie

735
00:36:06,770 --> 00:36:04,020
Keane Ralph Blumenthal the debrief or

736
00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:06,780
news Nation for his participation in

737
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,300
those stories apparently

738
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:12,240
uh Ross colthar Leslie Keane and Ralph

739
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:14,099
Blumenthal and the debrief have the

740
00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:16,140
exclusive one him in other words we're

741
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,940
not seeing this alleged UFO

742
00:36:22,849 --> 00:36:20,160
whistleblower doing direct interviews

743
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:22,859
with other media Outlets like CNN or Fox

744
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:28,079
News or MSNBC or you know NBC CBS ABC

745
00:36:32,750 --> 00:36:30,060
we're not seeing him do interviews

746
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:32,760
anywhere but with the people

747
00:36:38,089 --> 00:36:35,339
that may have some sort of exclusive

748
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:38,099
deal with him and I think it's important

749
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,440
to ask that question is David Crush

750
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,240
being paid by anyone including Mr

751
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:45,599
Elizondo Ross coltar Leslie Keane Ralph

752
00:36:50,329 --> 00:36:48,420
Blumenthal news nation is the debrief

753
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,339
paying him for his participation in

754
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:52,320
those stories

755
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:52,920
um

756
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,800
I'd also like to know due to Ross

757
00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:58,079
coldthart's insistence that this

758
00:37:02,270 --> 00:37:00,420
whistleblower David brush not share

759
00:37:05,150 --> 00:37:02,280
certain information during that meeting

760
00:37:07,609 --> 00:37:05,160
with the Canadian Parliament member is

761
00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:07,619
he under contract with Ross coltar Lou

762
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:10,500
Elizondo Gary Nolan or anyone else for

763
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:13,260
that matter to take part in a for-profit

764
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:15,720
documentary about his story

765
00:37:20,329 --> 00:37:18,420
is he under contract and if so how much

766
00:37:23,450 --> 00:37:20,339
is he being paid for his participation

767
00:37:25,970 --> 00:37:23,460
in that documentary film project and who

768
00:37:28,430 --> 00:37:25,980
else if anyone is involved in that

769
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:28,440
business venture and let me be very

770
00:37:32,329 --> 00:37:30,359
clear in that I'm just asking questions

771
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:32,339
here and these are questions that I

772
00:37:37,370 --> 00:37:34,880
think Ross coltar Leslie Keane

773
00:37:39,710 --> 00:37:37,380
Blumenthal and others who have access to

774
00:37:42,170 --> 00:37:39,720
him should be asking him and answering

775
00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:42,180
for people these are important relevant

776
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:44,700
questions is there a for-profit motive

777
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:47,760
here what's what's the deal

778
00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:50,880
and finally one big question that I have

779
00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:52,980
that I keep thinking about is are

780
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:54,180
officials

781
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,160
or government leaders in the United

782
00:38:00,109 --> 00:37:58,500
States even aware that these

783
00:38:02,329 --> 00:38:00,119
intelligence officials or former

784
00:38:04,430 --> 00:38:02,339
intelligence officials are meeting with

785
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,440
members of foreign governments and

786
00:38:10,370 --> 00:38:06,960
telling them that the United States is

787
00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:10,380
covering up the existence of alien crash

788
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,300
retrieved vehicles or bodies of

789
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:17,280
extraterrestrial biological entities or

790
00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:19,020
alien bodies whatever you want to call

791
00:38:22,609 --> 00:38:20,520
them

792
00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:22,619
so I think these are very important

793
00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:24,540
questions and questions that we should

794
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:27,140
seriously consider

795
00:38:36,530 --> 00:38:32,160
this is just bizarre to me that this man

796
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:36,540
a very very high ranking uh we're told a

797
00:38:42,290 --> 00:38:40,320
very very high ranking but we can we can

798
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,300
I can imagine that he is very high

799
00:38:46,849 --> 00:38:44,400
ranking intelligence officer because he

800
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:46,859
has access to some very secret projects

801
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:51,960
like the X-37B so it appears that this

802
00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:54,720
man is having meetings with the Canadian

803
00:39:00,589 --> 00:38:57,240
Parliament members and

804
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:00,599
telling them stories about UFOs alien

805
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:03,180
crash retrievals maybe alien bodies and

806
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:06,420
more and he did that before revealing it

807
00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:07,560
publicly

808
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,380
in a in a non-public meeting with these

809
00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:12,480
Canadian Parliament members

810
00:39:19,069 --> 00:39:15,960
so the fact also that Dr Gary Nolan is

811
00:39:22,670 --> 00:39:19,079
involved and let me be very very clear

812
00:39:25,849 --> 00:39:22,680
the day after these meetings concluded

813
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:25,859
with Dr Gary Nolan and members of the

814
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,220
Canadian Parliament and this alleged UFO

815
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:31,920
whistleblower David grush and Ross

816
00:39:36,530 --> 00:39:34,560
coldthart on the phone by or by

817
00:39:39,470 --> 00:39:36,540
teleconference whatever you want to call

818
00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:39,480
it he was participating in all these

819
00:39:43,849 --> 00:39:42,060
Ross Colbert it's interesting that Dr

820
00:39:46,430 --> 00:39:43,859
Gary Nolan was involved in these

821
00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:46,440
meetings why is a Stanford University

822
00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:49,320
Professor participating in meetings

823
00:39:55,130 --> 00:39:51,260
about

824
00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:55,140
apparently or allegedly top secret U.S

825
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,200
government programs involving the

826
00:40:02,329 --> 00:40:00,480
recovery of

827
00:40:07,550 --> 00:40:02,339
crashed

828
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,560
why is the Stanford University Professor

829
00:40:10,910 --> 00:40:09,540
involved in that why is an Australian

830
00:40:14,089 --> 00:40:10,920
journalist

831
00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:14,099
involved in a teleconference with this

832
00:40:20,990 --> 00:40:17,640
alleged UFO whistleblower talking about

833
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:21,000
these allegedly top secret U.S

834
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:23,640
government projects this is very strange

835
00:40:29,210 --> 00:40:27,060
to me and it also is let's be very very

836
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,220
clear because I'm developing a timeline

837
00:40:34,970 --> 00:40:31,680
here that is very very important

838
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,980
so April David grush

839
00:40:40,130 --> 00:40:37,200
resigns from his government job at the

840
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:40,140
ripe old age of 36. I don't even know

841
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:42,660
how he could be getting a pension or or

842
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:44,820
any retirement package

843
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,000
so I'm a little confused about that uh

844
00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:50,400
but it is what it is he retires at age

845
00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:53,700
ripe old age of 36 in April

846
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:57,900
and then he immediately starts scrubbing

847
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:00,180
every mention of him from the internet

848
00:41:05,170 --> 00:41:02,280
that he can including pictures of him

849
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,180
and his wife and family

850
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:07,680
his businesses

851
00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:12,000
that stuff gets wiped and then a few

852
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,339
short weeks after that he's on a plane

853
00:41:20,089 --> 00:41:16,560
to Canada

854
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,099
and he attends meetings with Dr Gary

855
00:41:25,490 --> 00:41:23,040
Nolan of Stanford University talking

856
00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:25,500
about the very same things that are

857
00:41:30,650 --> 00:41:27,780
mentioned in this debrief article with

858
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:30,660
members of the Canadian Parliament

859
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:33,420
members of the Canadian government

860
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:36,480
and of course Ross coldthart is there

861
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,079
and interrupts Gary Nolan and interrupts

862
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:42,720
David grush from talking about certain

863
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:44,579
things because they need to save that

864
00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:46,560
for the documentary

865
00:41:51,470 --> 00:41:49,320
this happens in mid-may

866
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:51,480
they start meetings with the Canadian

867
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:53,220
Parliament members

868
00:41:59,810 --> 00:41:55,079
June 5th

869
00:42:02,510 --> 00:41:59,820
we get yesterday we get the big drop of

870
00:42:06,290 --> 00:42:02,520
this story in the debrief and news

871
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,300
nation is now making five minute videos

872
00:42:11,390 --> 00:42:09,359
and milk in this thing for everything

873
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:11,400
that it's worth

874
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:12,240
um

875
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:14,940
I'm I'm just left a little confused but

876
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:17,640
I will say this

877
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:21,599
I am uh more troubled by this guy

878
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:25,560
being legitimate because he's traveling

879
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:27,240
with I'm not sure by the way if he

880
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:29,160
traveled with Gary Nolan but he ended up

881
00:42:34,130 --> 00:42:31,140
at the meetings with him

882
00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:34,140
um so I'm more troubled by this man

883
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:36,780
being legitimate because Gary Nolan is

884
00:42:42,890 --> 00:42:40,260
now involved CIA Gary I'm sorry this man

885
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:42,900
has talked about working on CIA projects

886
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:47,520
before and now he's hanging out with his

887
00:42:52,010 --> 00:42:49,800
so-called alleged UFO whistleblower and

888
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,020
here's where it gets very important also

889
00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:54,960
I talked about the timeline so May 15th

890
00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:57,900
they start this couple days of meetings

891
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,260
with Canadian Parliament members Gary

892
00:43:06,530 --> 00:43:03,599
Nolan Ross colthard and this so-called

893
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:06,540
alleged UFO whistleblower David grush

894
00:43:13,069 --> 00:43:09,599
right after the Canadian Parliament

895
00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:13,079
meetings and Gary Nolan is on a plane to

896
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:15,540
New York City where he attends that salt

897
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:19,140
conference and starts saying 100 aliens

898
00:43:22,849 --> 00:43:21,060
are here I'm sure of it and all those

899
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:22,859
things that we covered that we heard him

900
00:43:27,050 --> 00:43:23,940
say

901
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,060
so it appears that many of these people

902
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:29,760
are connected in some kind of incestuous

903
00:43:33,770 --> 00:43:32,640
circle or relationship here and I want

904
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,780
to know if there's a financial

905
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:36,480
relationship is this man working for

906
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,300
Luis Elizondo or Gary Nolan or Ross

907
00:43:43,490 --> 00:43:41,520
Copart are they all in on some

908
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:43,500
documentary deal together

909
00:43:48,349 --> 00:43:45,720
and these are important questions that

910
00:43:50,750 --> 00:43:48,359
should be answered and uh we have very

911
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:50,760
special guest tonight a man who loves to

912
00:44:00,170 --> 00:43:57,410
and uh you know uh I thought that we

913
00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:00,180
could discuss this uh whole situation

914
00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:02,220
better and bring in a few more

915
00:44:07,309 --> 00:44:05,160
perspectives uh so joining me to do that

916
00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:07,319
tonight is my special guest we have

917
00:44:12,670 --> 00:44:09,720
Manny from area 503 and I'm a terrible

918
00:44:15,530 --> 00:44:12,680
show host Manny I apologize

919
00:44:18,130 --> 00:44:15,540
this was last minute so you didn't make

920
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,140
the thumbnail bro sorry

921
00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:20,160
that's okay I don't need to be on a

922
00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:21,599
thumbnail I know I exist even without

923
00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:23,579
the little picture thank you for being

924
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:27,720
here so uh you you're you're backstage

925
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:30,720
listening to this this is uh brand new

926
00:44:35,450 --> 00:44:33,480
information about this guy that and and

927
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,460
isn't it interesting Manny that all

928
00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:37,440
these cut and paste journalists I had to

929
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:39,180
report this nobody found this

930
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,180
information except me yeah it is

931
00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:44,220
interesting and and the copy paste

932
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:46,260
journalism is a huge problem not just in

933
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,480
ufology but in everything nowadays you

934
00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:49,920
know it seems like

935
00:44:54,410 --> 00:44:51,480
um there's some lazy reporting going on

936
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:54,420
where people just want to you know take

937
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:55,980
another story that somebody else wrote

938
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:58,319
maybe change a few words around to make

939
00:45:02,870 --> 00:44:59,940
it seem like they they're they're you

940
00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:02,880
know a little bit yeah

941
00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:04,380
the problem with that is is that it's

942
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,940
like the old kindergarten game telephone

943
00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:07,920
you know where you tell a story enough

944
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:09,960
times and and you copy it you paste it

945
00:45:13,730 --> 00:45:12,300
if it's not verbatim and it's changed a

946
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:13,740
little bit each time before you know it

947
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:15,720
things get wildly Askew and away from

948
00:45:19,849 --> 00:45:18,240
the original story and the truth and in

949
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:19,859
this case nobody's doing the the

950
00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:22,560
research nobody's vetting this person

951
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:24,839
um past his military credentials which I

952
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:26,460
don't think you know in the case of

953
00:45:29,569 --> 00:45:28,200
Grouch I don't think that that many

954
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,579
people are saying oh he wasn't in the

955
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,200
military it's not like that I mean I've

956
00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:32,880
seen the photos of him in theater with

957
00:45:36,530 --> 00:45:34,500
his his weapon I've seen the patches

958
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:36,540
I've seen the medals the problem is is

959
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:38,760
that that lends zero credibility to his

960
00:45:43,609 --> 00:45:40,560
claims about finding these programs

961
00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:43,619
about finding UFOs about having crash

962
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:44,940
retrieval programs about having

963
00:45:49,069 --> 00:45:46,920
backwards engineering programs about

964
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,079
possibly even having bodies like he said

965
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:51,839
I mean if you really look at it the guy

966
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,540
has taken little bits of ufology over

967
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,640
the years and just kind of said that

968
00:46:00,109 --> 00:45:58,319
it's true and expected everyone to

969
00:46:01,790 --> 00:46:00,119
believe him because he's got this you

970
00:46:04,010 --> 00:46:01,800
know Stellar record or Stellar

971
00:46:05,630 --> 00:46:04,020
credentials but that doesn't where's the

972
00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:05,640
evidence where's the receipts where's

973
00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:07,980
the proof where's the documents you know

974
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,400
and um there's they're classified he

975
00:46:15,530 --> 00:46:13,680
can't share those well of course not and

976
00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:15,540
he can't talk about them either you

977
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,579
can't talk about classified programs you

978
00:46:22,210 --> 00:46:19,920
can't even acknowledge the existence of

979
00:46:24,349 --> 00:46:22,220
a top secret program in some cases

980
00:46:26,569 --> 00:46:24,359
absolutely I would be spilling

981
00:46:28,849 --> 00:46:26,579
classified secrets so

982
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:28,859
absolutely and so you know what I find I

983
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:31,440
find very suspicious about this Manny is

984
00:46:39,650 --> 00:46:36,000
that essentially this man comes out and

985
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:39,660
he says everything every UFO an alien

986
00:46:44,270 --> 00:46:42,300
believer desperately already believes or

987
00:46:47,870 --> 00:46:44,280
wants to believe and wants confirmation

988
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:47,880
of it's like this was like almost

989
00:46:54,050 --> 00:46:51,540
designed to be the confirmation of FC we

990
00:46:55,790 --> 00:46:54,060
were I have people emailing me see we

991
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:55,800
were all right Stephen we were right

992
00:46:59,930 --> 00:46:58,319
about the aliens being here the crashes

993
00:47:03,710 --> 00:46:59,940
and probably people are telling me Bob

994
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,720
Lazar was right like no no one of these

995
00:47:09,170 --> 00:47:05,760
things is not like the other and you're

996
00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,180
right they appear to have hammered on

997
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:11,579
his background being legitimate

998
00:47:17,089 --> 00:47:14,640
because I will say it with him just as I

999
00:47:18,829 --> 00:47:17,099
said it with Anjali it's rare that one

1000
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:18,839
of these people comes out with a huge

1001
00:47:23,930 --> 00:47:21,660
Fantastical claim story and that their

1002
00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:23,940
background turns out to be legitimate

1003
00:47:28,849 --> 00:47:26,400
but it's not unheard of and we can have

1004
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:28,859
an example of that with Anjali she was

1005
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:31,680
she was uh you know Air Force officer

1006
00:47:38,650 --> 00:47:35,280
she was a Dia she worked for the DIA

1007
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:38,660
both as a direct employee and has a

1008
00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:41,400
subcontractor later in information

1009
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:43,800
Warfare she had all kinds of top secret

1010
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,640
clearances but her entire story was fake

1011
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:50,160
you know her background was real I'll

1012
00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,040
give her that and so I'm very cautious

1013
00:47:57,650 --> 00:47:55,740
about the fact that the whole article in

1014
00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:57,660
the debrief was the who

1015
00:48:04,010 --> 00:48:00,300
not the why or the how or the you know

1016
00:48:06,890 --> 00:48:04,020
it seems very suspicious to me and and

1017
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:06,900
we we've all heard that clip of Leslie

1018
00:48:10,970 --> 00:48:08,760
Keane she was asked about the lack of

1019
00:48:14,329 --> 00:48:10,980
evidence is that a red flag to you and

1020
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,339
she said not at all not at all oh and we

1021
00:48:18,349 --> 00:48:17,040
want to thank Matt ice66 for becoming a

1022
00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:18,359
YouTube member thank you for your

1023
00:48:21,890 --> 00:48:20,220
kindness generosity and support we shout

1024
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,900
out anybody becomes a member during the

1025
00:48:27,470 --> 00:48:24,240
show did you what did you think of that

1026
00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:27,480
Leslie Keane thing it doesn't matter oh

1027
00:48:30,550 --> 00:48:29,400
that doesn't bother me at all it's not a

1028
00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:30,560
restaurant

1029
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:34,140
no evidence is not a red flag yeah put

1030
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:35,520
me right on the floor because that's

1031
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:37,140
that should be the number one thing that

1032
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,900
a journalist is asking for is evidence

1033
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,240
of claims especially when you have a

1034
00:48:46,010 --> 00:48:44,400
single story sort or single Source story

1035
00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:46,020
you have to have some kind of

1036
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,540
cooperating evidence to back that story

1037
00:48:53,329 --> 00:48:50,880
up and in this particular case it

1038
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:53,339
appears like there's none and you know

1039
00:48:57,230 --> 00:48:55,920
we're seeing a um you know people have

1040
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:57,240
I've watched in the chat and people have

1041
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,460
said oh blue 2.0 well yes we did see

1042
00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:01,680
this with Elizondo as well they banked

1043
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:03,180
on his credentials there was very little

1044
00:49:07,130 --> 00:49:04,680
evidence support in fact no evidence

1045
00:49:09,290 --> 00:49:07,140
supporting uh his claims except for a

1046
00:49:10,849 --> 00:49:09,300
ambiguous letter from Harry Reid that

1047
00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:10,859
didn't say much

1048
00:49:15,290 --> 00:49:13,260
um and there's uh you know there was

1049
00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:15,300
we're seeing that play out again and

1050
00:49:18,290 --> 00:49:16,920
what they're doing if you'll notice is

1051
00:49:19,609 --> 00:49:18,300
they're going to ignore any questions

1052
00:49:20,870 --> 00:49:19,619
that come out about the store and

1053
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:20,880
they're going to proceed with it as if

1054
00:49:25,550 --> 00:49:23,339
it's true when it's it doesn't appear

1055
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,560
like there's any evidence that it is and

1056
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:27,599
they're going to flood people like you

1057
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:30,240
who are questioning it with a hundred

1058
00:49:33,290 --> 00:49:31,800
different news outlets that are going to

1059
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,300
just copy and paste and run with the

1060
00:49:37,069 --> 00:49:35,040
story and why are those news outlets

1061
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:37,079
doing that because it sells because it

1062
00:49:40,550 --> 00:49:38,640
gets people to go to their web page and

1063
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,560
if you want a perfect example of that

1064
00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:43,440
the debrief is the prime example go

1065
00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:44,819
through their Twitter feed and look at

1066
00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:46,500
their average tweet response and and

1067
00:49:50,210 --> 00:49:47,940
what their interactions are and

1068
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,220
impressions are it's like nine to ten

1069
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,079
thousand Impressions on an average tweet

1070
00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:54,480
for those guys yesterday or when that

1071
00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:57,060
story came out they had over a million

1072
00:49:59,870 --> 00:49:58,260
or close to a million I think it was

1073
00:50:02,210 --> 00:49:59,880
just under a million a million

1074
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:02,220
impressions their website got so

1075
00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:03,599
hammered by people going to read that

1076
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,920
article that they couldn't handle the

1077
00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:06,480
traffic as you stated in your show last

1078
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:08,460
night it kept going up and down all day

1079
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:09,960
because they weren't handling they

1080
00:50:14,930 --> 00:50:11,400
weren't prepared to handle that sort of

1081
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,940
traffic so you know I swear I can

1082
00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:16,800
remember when the guy who started the

1083
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:19,140
debrief was very like incredibly

1084
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:20,160
skeptical

1085
00:50:24,290 --> 00:50:22,380
and it seems like he started the debrief

1086
00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:24,300
and that went out the window and it was

1087
00:50:28,190 --> 00:50:26,220
just like you're right like copy and

1088
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,200
paste what did Lou say this week let's

1089
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:30,480
write a story about it what did Gary

1090
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:32,280
Nolan say this week write a story about

1091
00:50:39,290 --> 00:50:36,000
it it's like this Echo chamber of of you

1092
00:50:41,089 --> 00:50:39,300
know no that's not journalism it's just

1093
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:41,099
no it's not journalism like uh John

1094
00:50:44,450 --> 00:50:43,079
Greenwald said on Twitter last week or

1095
00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:44,460
maybe the week before that he said if

1096
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:45,480
you know if you're going to be a

1097
00:50:48,290 --> 00:50:47,099
journalist you need to investigate stuff

1098
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,300
if you're going to be an investing when

1099
00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:50,400
you're calling yourself an investigative

1100
00:50:54,650 --> 00:50:52,980
journalist right and and he and the

1101
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,660
quote that I liked that he made was if

1102
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,920
you're not doing these things what

1103
00:51:00,109 --> 00:50:58,559
you're doing is PR not journalism and

1104
00:51:03,049 --> 00:51:00,119
that's the truth these people have

1105
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,059
gotten the best PR that you can money

1106
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:05,280
can buy and actually better than money

1107
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:06,480
can buy

1108
00:51:08,930 --> 00:51:07,619
um you know and they're getting it for

1109
00:51:10,130 --> 00:51:08,940
free because people are just doing it

1110
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:10,140
for click bait they've got all these

1111
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,420
different little podcasters and YouTube

1112
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:15,119
personalities and and you know groomed

1113
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:17,460
media assets like Chris sharp you know

1114
00:51:23,089 --> 00:51:19,800
and other people who are just who take

1115
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:23,099
what they say you know don't investigate

1116
00:51:27,470 --> 00:51:25,140
or question any of it and just run with

1117
00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:27,480
it and puppet it and the more people do

1118
00:51:32,329 --> 00:51:29,579
that it creates a little Echo chamber

1119
00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:32,339
before you you know it places like CNN

1120
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:35,160
and and you know and BC and ABC they're

1121
00:51:37,970 --> 00:51:36,720
gonna grab it and run with it at some

1122
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,980
point when it's been run and everybody

1123
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:39,359
else is talking about it they're going

1124
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,400
to do it too now hopefully they have a

1125
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:42,720
more critical eye and people start

1126
00:51:46,549 --> 00:51:43,740
getting back to a little bit of

1127
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,559
Journalism but it doesn't take it

1128
00:51:50,329 --> 00:51:48,480
doesn't take weeks and weeks and weeks

1129
00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:50,339
to fet some of this stuff you know in

1130
00:51:54,589 --> 00:51:52,740
the case it took like an hour to figure

1131
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:54,599
out everything there is to find on him

1132
00:51:57,230 --> 00:51:55,859
on the internet which isn't much as

1133
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:57,240
you've stated

1134
00:52:01,069 --> 00:51:59,280
um it doesn't take a lot you know you

1135
00:52:03,069 --> 00:52:01,079
don't have to sit down and do a a full

1136
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:03,079
year-long full-time investigation into

1137
00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:05,400
Elizondo like I did you don't have to go

1138
00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:07,380
that far if these people don't have

1139
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,700
something out there that backs up their

1140
00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:11,040
story these media Outlets should not be

1141
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,800
running them should not and and honestly

1142
00:52:18,049 --> 00:52:15,599
the onus comes on them and at some point

1143
00:52:20,569 --> 00:52:18,059
people need to react you know so many I

1144
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:20,579
think that something changed you know so

1145
00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:23,460
I I kind of remember fondly the days

1146
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,500
before the internet where like

1147
00:52:30,410 --> 00:52:27,599
television investigative journalism in

1148
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:30,420
60 minutes it was like it was such good

1149
00:52:34,370 --> 00:52:32,220
work that these guys did they really

1150
00:52:37,309 --> 00:52:34,380
dotted their eyes they crossed their T's

1151
00:52:40,849 --> 00:52:37,319
they had many sources to confirm the

1152
00:52:42,410 --> 00:52:40,859
story it was so different and now we

1153
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:42,420
live in this information age where

1154
00:52:46,010 --> 00:52:43,800
everybody's just trying to push out a

1155
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:46,020
story just create content so people

1156
00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:49,260
click on it and and we're really just

1157
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:51,240
living in a deluge of garbage

1158
00:52:56,030 --> 00:52:53,579
information unfortunately because of

1159
00:52:58,609 --> 00:52:56,040
this and quite honestly you know I'm

1160
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,619
talking to this Canadian uh media person

1161
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,480
who by the way they didn't want to be

1162
00:53:04,849 --> 00:53:03,119
named in any way

1163
00:53:06,829 --> 00:53:04,859
I was gonna name I'm like I'll credit

1164
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:06,839
y'all name you for no then no no don't

1165
00:53:16,490 --> 00:53:14,569
thinking crazy that you got you've got

1166
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,500
wind of this and you didn't report on it

1167
00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:17,760
and they were like yeah because it's

1168
00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:19,260
unconfirmed

1169
00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:22,140
it's stories so they didn't they didn't

1170
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:24,540
run with that story and they heard what

1171
00:53:29,530 --> 00:53:27,660
this they heard about what this man said

1172
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:29,540
in these Canadian

1173
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:32,460
Parliament meetings with Canadian

1174
00:53:37,130 --> 00:53:35,220
Parliament members which which what they

1175
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:37,140
heard he said is what we heard in the

1176
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:39,660
debrief article essentially from this

1177
00:53:45,470 --> 00:53:43,440
man David grush and they didn't run with

1178
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:45,480
the story because they can't confirm any

1179
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,220
of that as true or accurate information

1180
00:53:51,170 --> 00:53:49,920
it's just a guy who happens to somehow

1181
00:53:52,370 --> 00:53:51,180
get a meeting with the Canadian

1182
00:53:55,069 --> 00:53:52,380
Parliament member and he's telling

1183
00:53:56,809 --> 00:53:55,079
stories about aliens and by the way just

1184
00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:56,819
to be very clear

1185
00:54:01,609 --> 00:53:58,920
um that one Canadian Parliament member

1186
00:54:04,010 --> 00:54:01,619
is interested in UFOs he's kind of like

1187
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,020
the Canadian Timber shed or whatever you

1188
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:06,480
know like he's into it so he'll take

1189
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,359
meetings with these guys you know yeah

1190
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,520
and I'm not a honestly I'm not surprised

1191
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:13,440
to learn that there that these this

1192
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:15,180
group of people was up in Canada doing

1193
00:54:20,510 --> 00:54:17,520
that you know we saw where they were in

1194
00:54:22,190 --> 00:54:20,520
Italy they were in um uh where was that

1195
00:54:23,450 --> 00:54:22,200
other place um anyways they've been in

1196
00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:23,460
they've been in foreign countries trying

1197
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,260
to do this as well where they'll get

1198
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,599
more traction and less resistance where

1199
00:54:32,930 --> 00:54:30,480
the the UFO subject is more widely

1200
00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:32,940
accepted or possibly even they're doing

1201
00:54:35,930 --> 00:54:34,680
it because these are our Allied

1202
00:54:37,490 --> 00:54:35,940
countries and they're trying to use it

1203
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,500
to put external pressure on the United

1204
00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:39,119
States to release something that they

1205
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,339
think or believe is there but the truth

1206
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,680
is that if there was evidence there

1207
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:45,119
it would have been released somebody

1208
00:54:48,109 --> 00:54:46,740
would have brought it out somebody like

1209
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,119
Russ should have brought it out if he's

1210
00:54:51,770 --> 00:54:50,160
got all these documents and and has

1211
00:54:53,809 --> 00:54:51,780
evidence of his claims why didn't he

1212
00:54:55,370 --> 00:54:53,819
leak them you know I mean that would be

1213
00:54:56,809 --> 00:54:55,380
a whistleblower that really kind of

1214
00:54:58,670 --> 00:54:56,819
bothers me with people calling him a

1215
00:55:00,410 --> 00:54:58,680
whistleblower this man is not a

1216
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,420
whistleblower yeah what what whistle are

1217
00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:02,160
you blowing if you don't have any the

1218
00:55:08,109 --> 00:55:04,440
Snowden had like a mountain of evidence

1219
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:08,119
you know so it's a great example um

1220
00:55:13,549 --> 00:55:11,460
a mountain of evidence he had like you

1221
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:13,559
know thousands of government officials

1222
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:16,559
emails and he dropped it all and videos

1223
00:55:22,250 --> 00:55:19,680
of like civilians being killed unfairly

1224
00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:22,260
in the middle of a war zone women and

1225
00:55:26,270 --> 00:55:24,540
children and and drone attacks and he

1226
00:55:29,089 --> 00:55:26,280
had all this evidence and he dropped it

1227
00:55:30,589 --> 00:55:29,099
all and he it was irrefutable though you

1228
00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,599
couldn't argue with it we couldn't argue

1229
00:55:33,290 --> 00:55:31,920
with the evidence he didn't sit there

1230
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,300
and say trust me bro this stuff's

1231
00:55:36,890 --> 00:55:35,040
happening and say oh but I can't show

1232
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:36,900
you the documents that's classified no

1233
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:38,760
he dropped the evidence and the evidence

1234
00:55:44,030 --> 00:55:41,520
spoke for itself now that is something

1235
00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:44,040
that we haven't seen yet on any of of

1236
00:55:49,069 --> 00:55:45,900
these stories whether it's Elizondo

1237
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:49,079
whether it's Grouch we haven't seen the

1238
00:55:53,089 --> 00:55:50,640
evidence that we wouldn't need a trust

1239
00:55:54,290 --> 00:55:53,099
me bro story we don't need a story we

1240
00:55:56,589 --> 00:55:54,300
don't need to be told what the evidence

1241
00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:56,599
is show us the evidence and if it's

1242
00:56:01,010 --> 00:55:59,220
incontrovertible it will stand on its

1243
00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:01,020
own two legs and tell the story without

1244
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,300
anybody having to paraphrase what it is

1245
00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:06,240
but we just don't have that so that's a

1246
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,099
huge uh red flag and I do want to point

1247
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,079
that out you know the reality winner

1248
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,960
used her clearances to print one

1249
00:56:16,910 --> 00:56:14,880
document that she was not accessed to

1250
00:56:19,849 --> 00:56:16,920
print and leaked it to the news and she

1251
00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:19,859
was was sentenced to close to five years

1252
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:22,200
over five years in prison for that I

1253
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:23,760
mean the FBI knocked on her door and was

1254
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,079
kicking in her door and wanting to know

1255
00:56:29,870 --> 00:56:28,319
about it now if if garush had done

1256
00:56:31,309 --> 00:56:29,880
anything like that if he had gone and

1257
00:56:33,230 --> 00:56:31,319
done what he said he did where he was

1258
00:56:34,790 --> 00:56:33,240
getting all this impact information if

1259
00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:34,800
he was using his clearances to pull

1260
00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:36,420
documents and to get proof of these

1261
00:56:41,089 --> 00:56:38,339
things they would have found out a long

1262
00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:41,099
before today long before he even retired

1263
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:42,300
and they probably would have locked him

1264
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:44,040
up for it they wouldn't have let him

1265
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:45,599
just walk out and he certainly wouldn't

1266
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:48,240
have been cleared by dopsar to go tell

1267
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:50,660
his story to an Australian journalist

1268
00:56:55,609 --> 00:56:53,220
there's so many more to a Canadian

1269
00:56:57,650 --> 00:56:55,619
Parliament member and absolutely not to

1270
00:56:59,630 --> 00:56:57,660
a Canadian Parliament member and I have

1271
00:57:01,069 --> 00:56:59,640
another thing I have some insight I want

1272
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,079
to I want to share this and actually

1273
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:02,640
this came from Steve long what a great

1274
00:57:07,010 --> 00:57:04,740
find thank you Steve long

1275
00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:07,020
um this passage was left out of Captain

1276
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:11,220
Edward J rupeltz 1956 book the report on

1277
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,140
unidentified flying objects but was

1278
00:57:18,730 --> 00:57:15,599
included in dress found among his files

1279
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,740
it betrays the roots of the UFO cover-up

1280
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,359
disclosure issue more accurately than

1281
00:57:26,450 --> 00:57:23,520
root belt could have imagined and here's

1282
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:26,460
the quote quote so long ago that nobody

1283
00:57:31,370 --> 00:57:29,040
knows why the government established a

1284
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,380
policy not to comment on anything that

1285
00:57:36,530 --> 00:57:33,599
is written or said by private citizens

1286
00:57:39,170 --> 00:57:36,540
people can make any fantastic claim with

1287
00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:39,180
a relative relatively High degree of

1288
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,300
immunity to being exposed this policy

1289
00:57:48,410 --> 00:57:44,640
has been a bonanza to the writers of

1290
00:57:51,410 --> 00:57:48,420
saucer lure remember this is 1956. the

1291
00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:51,420
basic concept of sorcerism versus the

1292
00:57:54,650 --> 00:57:53,520
Air Force Warfare is to print or say

1293
00:57:57,410 --> 00:57:54,660
anything

1294
00:58:00,049 --> 00:57:57,420
and as proof of your honesty dare the

1295
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,059
Air Force to contradict you

1296
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,400
I wonder if that's still their policy is

1297
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:04,559
it kind of it seems like if they're a

1298
00:58:07,549 --> 00:58:05,880
private citizen they don't really want

1299
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:07,559
to talk you know they're not a

1300
00:58:11,270 --> 00:58:09,480
government employee you know yeah and

1301
00:58:13,370 --> 00:58:11,280
that's that's how people mischaracterize

1302
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,380
what the dopsar process is they say oh

1303
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:15,599
well dops are cleared rush to come out

1304
00:58:20,030 --> 00:58:17,760
and say what he did absolutely no they

1305
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:20,040
did not no it's even in the letter that

1306
00:58:23,930 --> 00:58:22,319
this letter is not an indication of the

1307
00:58:25,970 --> 00:58:23,940
veracity of your claims or something

1308
00:58:28,609 --> 00:58:25,980
like that right right and that's they

1309
00:58:31,609 --> 00:58:28,619
even but in other letters that I've seen

1310
00:58:33,530 --> 00:58:31,619
they don't explicitly say that so they

1311
00:58:35,569 --> 00:58:33,540
they knew that this was going to cause

1312
00:58:37,970 --> 00:58:35,579
some kind of controversy and they said

1313
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:37,980
it explicitly in the letter clearing him

1314
00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:40,799
that this letter is is you know it's

1315
00:58:47,630 --> 00:58:45,420
it's not us uh endorsing the veracity of

1316
00:58:50,210 --> 00:58:47,640
your or accuracy of your claims in any

1317
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,220
way absolutely all that they're doing is

1318
00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:51,839
they're scanning that for classified

1319
00:58:55,309 --> 00:58:53,700
material that might have been mentioned

1320
00:58:56,630 --> 00:58:55,319
or anything that's classified and

1321
00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:56,640
they're saying you can't say that

1322
00:59:00,349 --> 00:58:58,440
because it's classified you have to take

1323
00:59:01,970 --> 00:59:00,359
that out or you can sail that because

1324
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:01,980
it's not classified and that should be

1325
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:04,079
another huge red flag to everyone here

1326
00:59:08,210 --> 00:59:06,000
that anything that they approved him to

1327
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,220
talk about if that's true is not

1328
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:10,559
classified it's and so if it's not

1329
00:59:14,450 --> 00:59:12,359
constantly but how could that not be

1330
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,460
classified because he's saying these are

1331
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,319
secret projects it would have to be

1332
00:59:21,410 --> 00:59:18,960
classified project by definition right

1333
00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:21,420
it's under cover-up it would they use

1334
00:59:25,730 --> 00:59:23,880
classifications to do the cover-up if

1335
00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:25,740
it's not classified that we're picking

1336
00:59:31,549 --> 00:59:28,260
up extraterrestrial bodies and intact

1337
00:59:33,250 --> 00:59:31,559
spacecraft and what did you think of the

1338
00:59:36,410 --> 00:59:33,260
fact that this guy was involved with the

1339
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,420
X-37B and space force honestly I think

1340
00:59:40,490 --> 00:59:38,160
that's cool as crap I would much rather

1341
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,500
hear about his involvement with the x37b

1342
00:59:44,089 --> 00:59:42,240
in space force than I would about his

1343
00:59:46,010 --> 00:59:44,099
fictional involvement with UFO programs

1344
00:59:48,109 --> 00:59:46,020
or non-involvement or whatever he claims

1345
00:59:49,849 --> 00:59:48,119
because he's even said he hasn't seen

1346
00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:49,859
the evidence he hasn't seen photos he

1347
00:59:53,450 --> 00:59:51,720
hasn't seen I don't know what he says he

1348
00:59:55,789 --> 00:59:53,460
has other than stuff well there seems to

1349
00:59:59,390 --> 00:59:55,799
be there seems to be a problem with the

1350
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,400
with the photo because Colt art and

1351
01:00:05,450 --> 01:00:01,920
zabel or whatever his what is that guy's

1352
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:05,460
name the his partner in the podcast that

1353
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:07,980
he does first cycle Bruce zeibel they

1354
01:00:12,289 --> 01:00:10,799
both said that he saw pictures but he

1355
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:12,299
apparently said he didn't see any

1356
01:00:15,170 --> 01:00:13,680
pictures well there's another

1357
01:00:17,329 --> 01:00:15,180
contradiction there's another big

1358
01:00:19,250 --> 01:00:17,339
contradiction I I would think I would

1359
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:19,260
remember if the guy said he saw pictures

1360
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:22,319
of alien spacecraft and alien bodies or

1361
01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:24,660
not but these two guys are trying their

1362
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:27,660
very best to sell the story they may be

1363
01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:31,140
over promising and soon we'll we'll be

1364
01:00:35,870 --> 01:00:33,059
victims of the under deliver and the big

1365
01:00:37,309 --> 01:00:35,880
letdown yeah even if you assume that he

1366
01:00:39,049 --> 01:00:37,319
did see a photograph it's still

1367
01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:39,059
secondhand information even if you

1368
01:00:42,770 --> 01:00:41,220
assume that that he was told about these

1369
01:00:45,650 --> 01:00:42,780
programs it's second-hand information

1370
01:00:48,170 --> 01:00:45,660
yeah it could be these crash retrieval

1371
01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:48,180
things it's so ridiculous absolutely the

1372
01:00:52,809 --> 01:00:51,240
US government has a UFO crash retrieval

1373
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,819
program

1374
01:00:55,970 --> 01:00:54,720
satellite crashes in the United States

1375
01:00:57,170 --> 01:00:55,980
we're not going to send somebody out to

1376
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,180
pick it up and try to figure out what

1377
01:01:02,030 --> 01:00:59,359
they're exactly and I think

1378
01:01:03,470 --> 01:01:02,040
West correctly pointed out that some

1379
01:01:05,870 --> 01:01:03,480
people may have been involved in

1380
01:01:08,329 --> 01:01:05,880
programs like that and started working

1381
01:01:10,430 --> 01:01:08,339
on some of these recovered objects and

1382
01:01:12,589 --> 01:01:10,440
became convinced somehow that it was

1383
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:12,599
alien spacecraft not Russian or Chinese

1384
01:01:17,630 --> 01:01:16,079
somehow you know there's what what gives

1385
01:01:19,609 --> 01:01:17,640
me caution is that there's all these

1386
01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:19,619
advancements in Material Science that

1387
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:21,900
most normal I'm kind of a nerd so you

1388
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:24,079
know I read about graphene and things

1389
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:27,180
that they're working on and and

1390
01:01:33,530 --> 01:01:31,200
carbon nanotubes and and the 3D printing

1391
01:01:35,930 --> 01:01:33,540
world is going to explode soon with the

1392
01:01:38,089 --> 01:01:35,940
ability they will soon be able to 3D

1393
01:01:40,970 --> 01:01:38,099
print airplanes if they're not doing it

1394
01:01:44,230 --> 01:01:40,980
already you know and I mean metal ones

1395
01:01:46,849 --> 01:01:44,240
and but they have these new Advanced uh

1396
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:46,859
materials like carbon nanotubes or

1397
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:49,440
carbon mesh fiber and the 3D printer

1398
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:53,280
will like carbon mesh build bit by bit

1399
01:01:59,150 --> 01:01:56,880
build an entire aircraft for you it may

1400
01:02:01,089 --> 01:01:59,160
be that China and Russia are using some

1401
01:02:03,950 --> 01:02:01,099
of these emerging or new technologies

1402
01:02:05,690 --> 01:02:03,960
and that something crashed and we got a

1403
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:05,700
hold of it and somebody became convinced

1404
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,500
this can't be Russian this can't be

1405
01:02:11,450 --> 01:02:09,839
Chinese this has got to be alien and

1406
01:02:14,569 --> 01:02:11,460
they started telling stories this guy

1407
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:14,579
gets a whiff of it and suddenly he's

1408
01:02:19,250 --> 01:02:16,559
telling these stories and then here's

1409
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:19,260
another important this is incredibly

1410
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:20,640
important

1411
01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:22,440
um and and I wanted to share it with you

1412
01:02:27,950 --> 01:02:25,200
and get your reaction because it appears

1413
01:02:32,150 --> 01:02:27,960
that besides being closely as Associated

1414
01:02:34,370 --> 01:02:32,160
now with Dr Gary Nolan and Ross

1415
01:02:37,370 --> 01:02:34,380
coldthart it also appears that Eric

1416
01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:37,380
Davis is directly involved and Eric

1417
01:02:42,410 --> 01:02:39,900
Davis says Gary Nolan and I have been

1418
01:02:44,809 --> 01:02:42,420
working together since 2009 and what he

1419
01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:44,819
told the reporter is 100 accurate this

1420
01:02:48,230 --> 01:02:45,900
is about as

1421
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:48,240
you know alien claims much of what he

1422
01:02:52,609 --> 01:02:50,220
said is partly based on my work over 25

1423
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:52,619
years and more recent work of my nail

1424
01:02:58,670 --> 01:02:55,500
former special security officer who

1425
01:03:01,069 --> 01:02:58,680
works in Colorado Springs and is in and

1426
01:03:03,410 --> 01:03:01,079
is the U.S government whistleblower who

1427
01:03:05,390 --> 01:03:03,420
remains unknown but will become known

1428
01:03:09,289 --> 01:03:05,400
and is soon to be published expose in

1429
01:03:11,450 --> 01:03:09,299
the Washington Post so Eric Davis may be

1430
01:03:14,510 --> 01:03:11,460
the person feeding him the stories the

1431
01:03:16,849 --> 01:03:14,520
the source of the Wilson Davis notes

1432
01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,859
that people have been arguing about for

1433
01:03:20,870 --> 01:03:18,660
years that no one will ever prove are

1434
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:20,880
real or true or you know

1435
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:23,099
yeah it has some uh similarities

1436
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:25,020
obviously and it's hard to deny that if

1437
01:03:30,530 --> 01:03:27,960
garush was working with Eric Davis that

1438
01:03:32,750 --> 01:03:30,540
he's not one of those uh that Davis

1439
01:03:35,150 --> 01:03:32,760
isn't one of his sources and that right

1440
01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:35,160
there again like you said earlier you

1441
01:03:37,849 --> 01:03:36,420
don't have to go too far into these

1442
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:37,859
stories until everyone's connected to

1443
01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:39,839
everybody else it's the same players

1444
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,119
it's always Davis behind the scenes it's

1445
01:03:45,650 --> 01:03:43,920
always Elizondo it's always Chris melon

1446
01:03:48,109 --> 01:03:45,660
it's always Gary Nolan it's always the

1447
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:48,119
same exact people and now they've got

1448
01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:49,619
the same journalist if it's not George

1449
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,380
Knapp and and you know uh then it's or

1450
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,240
Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal then

1451
01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:56,640
it's now it's Ross kufart you know or

1452
01:04:05,390 --> 01:04:01,200
yeah and my my caution the reason that I

1453
01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:05,400
refuse Manny to not be cautious here and

1454
01:04:12,170 --> 01:04:08,760
I certainly refuse so far to give in to

1455
01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:12,180
things like hoping even I don't even

1456
01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:14,940
want to Hope yet that this guy is on the

1457
01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:16,920
level and telling the truth because I

1458
01:04:21,370 --> 01:04:19,140
see things like this and who's to say

1459
01:04:24,410 --> 01:04:21,380
that his sources aren't

1460
01:04:27,289 --> 01:04:24,420
like Eric Davis or Hal putoff or the

1461
01:04:29,329 --> 01:04:27,299
whole Skinwalker spooky crew you know

1462
01:04:31,309 --> 01:04:29,339
that have been doing this stuff and

1463
01:04:34,190 --> 01:04:31,319
saying this stuff for decades and never

1464
01:04:36,309 --> 01:04:34,200
proving it who's to say his sources are

1465
01:04:39,470 --> 01:04:36,319
not how put off

1466
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:39,480
Lou Elizondo before we know he picked up

1467
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:41,400
Colonel Corso's book and read it and is

1468
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,200
using that as a source you know I mean

1469
01:04:47,690 --> 01:04:45,359
and that's the point I mean what

1470
01:04:50,210 --> 01:04:47,700
he gruchus not said anything different

1471
01:04:51,770 --> 01:04:50,220
than Bob Lazar said or Colonel Corso or

1472
01:04:53,750 --> 01:04:51,780
like you pointed out Eric Davis or some

1473
01:04:55,309 --> 01:04:53,760
of these other people hell put off like

1474
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:55,319
these people have been saying four years

1475
01:05:00,410 --> 01:04:58,079
so I don't understand why people are so

1476
01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:00,420
quick to jump on his story and accept it

1477
01:05:06,349 --> 01:05:03,660
as fact when there's zero evidence of

1478
01:05:08,329 --> 01:05:06,359
his claims zero he's been I think a lot

1479
01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:08,339
of people everybody else a lot of people

1480
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:11,220
are really like laying on his

1481
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:13,200
credentials well the guy's so

1482
01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:15,540
credentialed he would know he would get

1483
01:05:24,490 --> 01:05:18,660
access right and and I don't I don't

1484
01:05:29,950 --> 01:05:28,010
didn't say Erica loose on Twitter uh

1485
01:05:33,410 --> 01:05:29,960
credit to Erica Luke's

1486
01:05:37,549 --> 01:05:33,420
this is from 1978.

1487
01:05:40,370 --> 01:05:37,559
right and look what it says I trust that

1488
01:05:42,890 --> 01:05:40,380
its impact or its implications the

1489
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:42,900
stories of UFO crash retrievals in this

1490
01:05:47,630 --> 01:05:45,839
book will not cause alarm or to the

1491
01:05:50,329 --> 01:05:47,640
other extreme bore you for the record my

1492
01:05:53,089 --> 01:05:50,339
original papers entitled retrievals of

1493
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:53,099
the Third Kind completed April 5th 1978

1494
01:05:58,250 --> 01:05:55,740
has been drastically changed since that

1495
01:06:00,730 --> 01:05:58,260
date many major events have happened and

1496
01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:00,740
new information concerning concerning

1497
01:06:06,410 --> 01:06:03,299
retrievals of craft and the alien

1498
01:06:08,510 --> 01:06:06,420
humanoids have come into my hands some

1499
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:08,520
of these data are sensitive for a number

1500
01:06:19,130 --> 01:06:16,549
1978 hey and guess you know listen I I

1501
01:06:21,890 --> 01:06:19,140
read the Stringfield books I found them

1502
01:06:24,349 --> 01:06:21,900
extremely entertaining and and things

1503
01:06:27,049 --> 01:06:24,359
like that but Stringfield used almost

1504
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,059
exclusively all his books were like just

1505
01:06:32,270 --> 01:06:30,000
filled every other story or every story

1506
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:32,280
of a crash retrieval was Anonymous

1507
01:06:38,089 --> 01:06:35,760
sources he never proved anything he made

1508
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:38,099
a lot of money selling books about these

1509
01:06:42,049 --> 01:06:39,660
alien crash retrievals he claimed were

1510
01:06:44,329 --> 01:06:42,059
taking place all over the world and

1511
01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:44,339
especially in the United States but it

1512
01:06:49,849 --> 01:06:47,220
didn't prove anything so these are these

1513
01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:49,859
claims go back to at least 1978 well

1514
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:53,940
Roswell too you know an Aztec that that

1515
01:07:00,589 --> 01:06:56,880
was fake and then we got the stunning

1516
01:07:04,130 --> 01:07:00,599
Revelation at the Trinity case of alien

1517
01:07:05,809 --> 01:07:04,140
crashes that's fake you know these

1518
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:05,819
stories go way back and you're right

1519
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:08,160
this is just like recycled story from

1520
01:07:14,510 --> 01:07:12,720
1978 sounds the same here you know yeah

1521
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:14,520
yeah there's absolutely nothing new in

1522
01:07:18,890 --> 01:07:16,200
his story I mean we haven't seen the

1523
01:07:20,750 --> 01:07:18,900
full 7 or 11 hour interview however long

1524
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:20,760
it ends up being that he has and it'll

1525
01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:23,039
probably take uh Ross cool third it'll

1526
01:07:25,970 --> 01:07:24,599
probably take him five months to drip

1527
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:25,980
feed that out so he can milk it for

1528
01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:27,359
everything it's worth

1529
01:07:30,529 --> 01:07:28,680
um but I have a feeling that when the

1530
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,539
dust settles all we're going to get are

1531
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,920
a bunch more stories I don't think

1532
01:07:35,089 --> 01:07:33,599
there's going to be any evidence

1533
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:35,099
um I don't think that we're going to see

1534
01:07:38,329 --> 01:07:36,480
anything new I don't even think we're

1535
01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:38,339
gonna even see or hear anything original

1536
01:07:42,049 --> 01:07:39,839
to be honest with you it's just going to

1537
01:07:44,210 --> 01:07:42,059
be a rehash of what other people have

1538
01:07:47,089 --> 01:07:44,220
said over the years propped up by this

1539
01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:47,099
copy paste media reporting that uh you

1540
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:48,660
know leans so heavily on this guy's

1541
01:07:54,650 --> 01:07:51,119
credentials and and doesn't uh vet his

1542
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:54,660
story or the the facts one bit and um

1543
01:07:59,390 --> 01:07:56,400
you know there's something else to think

1544
01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:59,400
about too is that then uh intelligence

1545
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:01,920
Community by and large like the defense

1546
01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:04,200
intelligence agency they love when this

1547
01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:05,460
stuff happens and people are saying well

1548
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,660
why doesn't the government shut this guy

1549
01:08:10,670 --> 01:08:08,400
down if he's wrong if he's lying they

1550
01:08:12,410 --> 01:08:10,680
love when this stuff comes out Jeremy

1551
01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:12,420
McAllen just did a great article about

1552
01:08:17,450 --> 01:08:14,400
asymmetric Warfare where he talks about

1553
01:08:19,130 --> 01:08:17,460
the reason you're right why why the dod

1554
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:19,140
and certain factions in the intelligence

1555
01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:21,420
Community love when people like Grouch

1556
01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:23,460
come out love when people like Elizondo

1557
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,500
come out and make up crazy Fantastical

1558
01:08:30,590 --> 01:08:28,080
stories about us having Superior alien

1559
01:08:32,269 --> 01:08:30,600
technology and to just kind of dumb it

1560
01:08:34,970 --> 01:08:32,279
down and put it in a you know wrap it up

1561
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:34,980
in a nutshell it scares the hell out of

1562
01:08:39,169 --> 01:08:37,380
our adversaries it makes people in in

1563
01:08:41,630 --> 01:08:39,179
Russia or in China think that we've got

1564
01:08:43,309 --> 01:08:41,640
UFOs and and you know disintegration

1565
01:08:45,530 --> 01:08:43,319
beams why would they ever come over here

1566
01:08:46,669 --> 01:08:45,540
and mess around you know and it's just

1567
01:08:49,490 --> 01:08:46,679
that simple it has to do with

1568
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:49,500
misinformation keeping your your enemy

1569
01:08:53,390 --> 01:08:50,880
and guessing where you are and where

1570
01:08:55,550 --> 01:08:53,400
you're not and you know and in the case

1571
01:08:57,410 --> 01:08:55,560
of some of these programs getting them

1572
01:08:59,390 --> 01:08:57,420
to commit resources to try to chase a

1573
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:59,400
technology that doesn't exist or that

1574
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:01,679
can be never exists so they waste their

1575
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:04,319
their resources and their money and

1576
01:09:07,130 --> 01:09:05,759
their infrastructure on it so they're

1577
01:09:09,289 --> 01:09:07,140
not building Hypersonic weapons they're

1578
01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:09,299
out building trying to build UFOs you

1579
01:09:12,650 --> 01:09:11,100
know or they're not building the next

1580
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:12,660
generation of aircraft carrier or

1581
01:09:16,669 --> 01:09:14,640
nuclear submarine because they're out

1582
01:09:18,769 --> 01:09:16,679
trying to build these Hypersonic drones

1583
01:09:21,169 --> 01:09:18,779
that can you know teleport from you know

1584
01:09:22,849 --> 01:09:21,179
can go to Mach 800 000 in two seconds

1585
01:09:24,050 --> 01:09:22,859
and warp anywhere in the planet you know

1586
01:09:26,510 --> 01:09:24,060
and all this [\h__\h] that people are

1587
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,520
trying to sell you know so there are

1588
01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:28,560
some kind of some issues that that are

1589
01:09:31,789 --> 01:09:29,819
around that and the government it

1590
01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:31,799
doesn't necessarily want them to stop I

1591
01:09:34,130 --> 01:09:33,060
mean they might they might not encourage

1592
01:09:36,349 --> 01:09:34,140
it but they're not going to go out of

1593
01:09:39,890 --> 01:09:36,359
their way to stop it either

1594
01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:39,900
yeah I'm getting I'm getting uh hammered

1595
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:42,120
on Twitter by nameless faceless accounts

1596
01:09:47,630 --> 01:09:44,940
again Manny isn't that isn't that great

1597
01:09:49,849 --> 01:09:47,640
and you know what's great is somebody

1598
01:09:52,669 --> 01:09:49,859
just said on Twitter all cambian houses

1599
01:09:54,169 --> 01:09:52,679
trust me bro and he doesn't share his

1600
01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:54,179
sources

1601
01:09:59,390 --> 01:09:56,340
um I spent all day today Manny working

1602
01:10:01,370 --> 01:09:59,400
on this one story right to make sure

1603
01:10:03,770 --> 01:10:01,380
that I get the story right I have an

1604
01:10:06,410 --> 01:10:03,780
eight-year track record of getting

1605
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:06,420
the story right and I'm still getting

1606
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:09,600
[\h__\h] because people don't like the truth

1607
01:10:15,169 --> 01:10:12,900
apparently you know and and I'm to the

1608
01:10:17,090 --> 01:10:15,179
point like go listen to fair you know go

1609
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,100
buy a Mother Goose book if you want

1610
01:10:22,729 --> 01:10:20,159
fairy tales don't come here because all

1611
01:10:24,649 --> 01:10:22,739
I do is follow the story and then I and

1612
01:10:26,450 --> 01:10:24,659
I take my audience with me and I share

1613
01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:26,460
with them what I found tonight is a

1614
01:10:31,250 --> 01:10:29,219
perfect example this is a new exclusive

1615
01:10:33,709 --> 01:10:31,260
story that nobody else has and people

1616
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:33,719
are saying I don't have sources you know

1617
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,480
then why did I get the story and

1618
01:10:40,189 --> 01:10:38,400
everybody else missed this I think this

1619
01:10:42,169 --> 01:10:40,199
is an important part of the timeline

1620
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,179
here this is an important part of the

1621
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:43,440
story you know

1622
01:10:48,649 --> 01:10:44,640
yeah

1623
01:10:49,970 --> 01:10:48,659
protect a source then that's what you

1624
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,980
can do and that and you need to do that

1625
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,360
you know and I understand that in

1626
01:10:55,430 --> 01:10:53,040
journalism you know like like there's

1627
01:10:57,169 --> 01:10:55,440
reasons people might not want their name

1628
01:10:59,030 --> 01:10:57,179
out there especially when they've seen

1629
01:11:00,649 --> 01:10:59,040
how uh anyone who questions this

1630
01:11:02,810 --> 01:11:00,659
particular group of people is treated

1631
01:11:05,209 --> 01:11:02,820
you know with the smear campaigns and

1632
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:05,219
the doxing and the defamation and the

1633
01:11:08,510 --> 01:11:06,719
the online attacks I mean even

1634
01:11:11,090 --> 01:11:08,520
Kirkpatrick commented about it in the

1635
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:11,100
last uh at the NASA uh UAP briefing

1636
01:11:14,930 --> 01:11:13,260
talked about the online harassment and

1637
01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:14,940
then there's people who who just openly

1638
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:16,860
do this stuff so I can understand why in

1639
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,120
today's day and age people want to keep

1640
01:11:21,470 --> 01:11:20,159
their sources confidential

1641
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:21,480
um you know and that doesn't mean that

1642
01:11:25,010 --> 01:11:22,980
they're not true I mean at least you

1643
01:11:27,050 --> 01:11:25,020
have a source at least it's not you know

1644
01:11:28,669 --> 01:11:27,060
it's it's not somebody just repeating a

1645
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:28,679
story they heard from someone else you

1646
01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:29,760
know so

1647
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:31,020
um and be honest with you you know

1648
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:32,159
you're normally pretty good about your

1649
01:11:35,209 --> 01:11:33,840
sources and using them so I think that

1650
01:11:37,010 --> 01:11:35,219
should give you the credibility in this

1651
01:11:38,510 --> 01:11:37,020
case to keep it confidential but you

1652
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:38,520
know and you know maybe they just want

1653
01:11:41,810 --> 01:11:40,560
to uh retaliate against this person or

1654
01:11:43,130 --> 01:11:41,820
go find them so maybe that's why they're

1655
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:43,140
trying to pry The Source out of you

1656
01:11:46,250 --> 01:11:45,120
stick to your Gods man you just to go

1657
01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:46,260
with your gut don't let people push

1658
01:11:48,830 --> 01:11:47,460
around and try to tell you how to do

1659
01:11:50,270 --> 01:11:48,840
your job you know you know what you're

1660
01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:50,280
doing is right you know what the sources

1661
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:52,260
that you have are credible no you know

1662
01:11:57,950 --> 01:11:54,719
it I try I try not to let it bother me

1663
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:57,960
you know like if if a real person comes

1664
01:12:02,209 --> 01:12:00,239
to me with some complaints I'm much more

1665
01:12:04,010 --> 01:12:02,219
apt to listen but when it's a nameless

1666
01:12:06,169 --> 01:12:04,020
faceless especially brand new Twitter

1667
01:12:08,450 --> 01:12:06,179
account I don't know who I'm talking to

1668
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:08,460
it could be Lou Elizondo right it

1669
01:12:13,850 --> 01:12:10,800
probably is it could be anybody it could

1670
01:12:17,570 --> 01:12:13,860
be anybody uh I love to I did a story on

1671
01:12:19,550 --> 01:12:17,580
David Adair Manny and nobody is this

1672
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:19,560
passionate about David there so David

1673
01:12:24,590 --> 01:12:22,080
Adair is in the comments to that story

1674
01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:24,600
in the in the video comments

1675
01:12:30,830 --> 01:12:27,540
like passionately defending David Adair

1676
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:30,840
as a scientific genius

1677
01:12:35,450 --> 01:12:32,880
oh I know that's him I'm like that's got

1678
01:12:38,050 --> 01:12:35,460
to be David nobody cares much about that

1679
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:38,060
old clown yeah I think

1680
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:42,000
aliens engine stories and Area 51 he was

1681
01:12:46,669 --> 01:12:44,159
there when he was a kid and oh come on

1682
01:12:48,470 --> 01:12:46,679
you know yeah we all know that

1683
01:12:50,570 --> 01:12:48,480
elizondo's used a few sock puppet

1684
01:12:52,250 --> 01:12:50,580
accounts um you know and and his

1685
01:12:53,630 --> 01:12:52,260
significant other also loves to get on

1686
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,640
Twitter and go fight battles for him

1687
01:12:56,270 --> 01:12:55,199
what's up Lou

1688
01:12:58,610 --> 01:12:56,280
um you know

1689
01:13:00,410 --> 01:12:58,620
yeah she likes to go white night for a

1690
01:13:02,570 --> 01:13:00,420
man which is admirable in a way you know

1691
01:13:04,490 --> 01:13:02,580
I mean but um you know it's kind of

1692
01:13:06,830 --> 01:13:04,500
Despicable and they think that they

1693
01:13:08,270 --> 01:13:06,840
think that UFO Twitter is not that big

1694
01:13:09,950 --> 01:13:08,280
of a place okay and when people come at

1695
01:13:11,689 --> 01:13:09,960
me with a sock puppet account it's

1696
01:13:13,729 --> 01:13:11,699
really easy to identify them and it's

1697
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:13,739
real easy if you look at how and what

1698
01:13:16,669 --> 01:13:15,360
they're going to figure out who they are

1699
01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:16,679
by what they're liking and what they're

1700
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,420
saying and how they say it and so these

1701
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,920
people think that because you know they

1702
01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:21,120
think oh the internet's huge you can

1703
01:13:23,870 --> 01:13:22,440
never approve it well I don't have to

1704
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,880
prove it I know who these stock puppet

1705
01:13:26,930 --> 01:13:25,440
counts are I've flagged a bunch of them

1706
01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:26,940
you know and I've tagged a bunch of them

1707
01:13:30,350 --> 01:13:28,860
and you might not confront them or out

1708
01:13:31,790 --> 01:13:30,360
them I might just watch them because

1709
01:13:33,709 --> 01:13:31,800
that gives me insight into what people

1710
01:13:35,390 --> 01:13:33,719
like elizado are doing oh I have one and

1711
01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:35,400
I I just called him a dumb [\h__\h]

1712
01:13:40,669 --> 01:13:37,980
today and blocked them I have one person

1713
01:13:42,530 --> 01:13:40,679
who's even been a guest here you know

1714
01:13:44,330 --> 01:13:42,540
and he used to like me and then I

1715
01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:44,340
started busting all the people that he

1716
01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:46,199
loves and you know loves to hear fairy

1717
01:13:52,370 --> 01:13:49,500
tales from and I mean like you know me

1718
01:13:55,010 --> 01:13:52,380
Manny like I mean bust it like there's

1719
01:13:58,430 --> 01:13:55,020
no arguing with me that person is a

1720
01:14:01,490 --> 01:13:58,440
fraud and a scammer and so suddenly

1721
01:14:03,470 --> 01:14:01,500
the same person made all these fake

1722
01:14:05,209 --> 01:14:03,480
Twitter accounts and start slagging me

1723
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:05,219
on the internet and he thinks I don't

1724
01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:08,400
know it's him I know it's him because of

1725
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:10,920
certain uh distinguishing factors let's

1726
01:14:15,770 --> 01:14:12,960
just leave it at that things that he

1727
01:14:17,570 --> 01:14:15,780
does or did in his real account that

1728
01:14:19,970 --> 01:14:17,580
he's doing on all these sock accounts

1729
01:14:21,169 --> 01:14:19,980
and it's just ridiculous like I'm not

1730
01:14:22,970 --> 01:14:21,179
going to argue with you you're a

1731
01:14:24,830 --> 01:14:22,980
backstabbing [\h__\h] you know don't

1732
01:14:26,330 --> 01:14:24,840
smile to my face and come at me with a

1733
01:14:29,149 --> 01:14:26,340
sock account because you don't like that

1734
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:29,159
I busted a fairy tale you like but you

1735
01:14:33,470 --> 01:14:30,960
know one thing also I wanted to ask you

1736
01:14:36,470 --> 01:14:33,480
about is this the issue with the

1737
01:14:39,470 --> 01:14:36,480
documentary according to sources in this

1738
01:14:41,810 --> 01:14:39,480
story Ross coldthart stopped Gary Nolan

1739
01:14:43,970 --> 01:14:41,820
and David grush from telling this

1740
01:14:46,250 --> 01:14:43,980
Canadian Parliament member part of a

1741
01:14:48,830 --> 01:14:46,260
story because they want to save it for

1742
01:14:51,490 --> 01:14:48,840
the documentary doesn't that kind of

1743
01:14:53,930 --> 01:14:51,500
show that this is a profit-based

1744
01:14:57,470 --> 01:14:53,940
Adventure here this is not about the

1745
01:14:59,810 --> 01:14:57,480
truth or you know absolutely 100 they

1746
01:15:01,850 --> 01:14:59,820
don't want to out their their you know

1747
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,860
um money shot you know so to speak for

1748
01:15:05,209 --> 01:15:03,360
their documentary and as as somebody

1749
01:15:06,350 --> 01:15:05,219
who's working on Films myself I I feel

1750
01:15:07,850 --> 01:15:06,360
the same way I'd be like no I wouldn't

1751
01:15:08,930 --> 01:15:07,860
let if I had a source like that I

1752
01:15:10,610 --> 01:15:08,940
wouldn't even take it to the Canadian

1753
01:15:12,229 --> 01:15:10,620
Parliament I take it to nobody I would

1754
01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:12,239
keep it completely under wraps until I'm

1755
01:15:15,410 --> 01:15:13,560
ready to throw it up on the screen and

1756
01:15:16,850 --> 01:15:15,420
and you know put it in my film and then

1757
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:16,860
after that sure then they can go talk to

1758
01:15:20,030 --> 01:15:18,480
whoever but you know and that makes

1759
01:15:21,770 --> 01:15:20,040
sense but that does show that it's a

1760
01:15:25,370 --> 01:15:21,780
for-profit it's a business mindset it's

1761
01:15:26,930 --> 01:15:25,380
not an uh an altruistic uh Endeavor

1762
01:15:28,729 --> 01:15:26,940
trying to get the truth out you know

1763
01:15:31,370 --> 01:15:28,739
this isn't an activist I mean right he's

1764
01:15:33,229 --> 01:15:31,380
a he's a journalist but in a way he's

1765
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:33,239
kind of fronting as an activist too like

1766
01:15:36,169 --> 01:15:34,560
some of the other people you know like

1767
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:36,179
Wesley Kane has done too you know where

1768
01:15:39,890 --> 01:15:37,920
she's not really a journalist anymore

1769
01:15:41,090 --> 01:15:39,900
she's a hack to this if I as I call her

1770
01:15:42,770 --> 01:15:41,100
because she doesn't want to she doesn't

1771
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,780
care if there's proof or not no no red

1772
01:15:46,430 --> 01:15:44,640
flags you know like I don't care yeah

1773
01:15:49,310 --> 01:15:46,440
somebody reminded me in the YouTube

1774
01:15:51,229 --> 01:15:49,320
comments uh Sky's not the limit comment

1775
01:15:54,830 --> 01:15:51,239
Leslie Keane also said she witnessed

1776
01:15:57,050 --> 01:15:54,840
just a ghost form and animate a wax hand

1777
01:15:59,390 --> 01:15:57,060
and instead of providing a video of the

1778
01:16:02,570 --> 01:15:59,400
hand forming she points to the wax form

1779
01:16:04,570 --> 01:16:02,580
tan which proves nothing yeah she was in

1780
01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:04,580
a she was in a

1781
01:16:09,470 --> 01:16:07,140
documentary piece about life after death

1782
01:16:12,229 --> 01:16:09,480
and and she believes in spiritualism and

1783
01:16:14,689 --> 01:16:12,239
ectoplasm and all of that garbage like

1784
01:16:17,990 --> 01:16:14,699
mediums and she believes in all of that

1785
01:16:19,729 --> 01:16:18,000
so you know to me I don't find her to be

1786
01:16:22,669 --> 01:16:19,739
a credible journalist and also she

1787
01:16:26,990 --> 01:16:22,679
admits that she massaged the data right

1788
01:16:28,970 --> 01:16:27,000
in that 2016 New York Times article uh

1789
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:28,980
to make it better for the UFO Community

1790
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,440
she left out all the werewolves it's

1791
01:16:35,330 --> 01:16:33,360
been nice to say there was massage data

1792
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:35,340
it was a fabrication the story was a

1793
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,920
complete farce you know um there was it

1794
01:16:42,050 --> 01:16:40,080
was not it was framed his ass up but it

1795
01:16:44,030 --> 01:16:42,060
wasn't really they talked about this

1796
01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:44,040
unofficial program that Lou was in and

1797
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:46,560
propped up Elizondo as the the UFO

1798
01:16:50,570 --> 01:16:48,960
Hunter and all that and then uh drop

1799
01:16:52,610 --> 01:16:50,580
some stolen video from the Pentagon to

1800
01:16:55,390 --> 01:16:52,620
give it all credibility it allegedly

1801
01:16:57,649 --> 01:16:55,400
stolen oh yeah well well I don't know

1802
01:16:59,209 --> 01:16:57,659
I mean in the phenomenon movie melon

1803
01:17:00,770 --> 01:16:59,219
admits to he removed him from the

1804
01:17:02,570 --> 01:17:00,780
Pentagon parking lot and they were

1805
01:17:04,729 --> 01:17:02,580
removed improperly yeah they just got

1806
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:04,739
the rules they just bet the rules if you

1807
01:17:08,030 --> 01:17:06,000
and I bent the rules with Federal

1808
01:17:10,630 --> 01:17:08,040
property we'd be in prison but you know

1809
01:17:13,490 --> 01:17:10,640
yeah but you're not American

1810
01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:13,500
so do you really think do you really

1811
01:17:17,630 --> 01:17:15,960
think that Elizondo realized that his

1812
01:17:19,850 --> 01:17:17,640
own credibility and time in the

1813
01:17:22,189 --> 01:17:19,860
spotlight was over so he propped this

1814
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,199
guy up maybe they people were claiming

1815
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:24,960
that he was groomed by Elizondo maybe

1816
01:17:29,330 --> 01:17:27,480
that's true that Elizondo realized that

1817
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:29,340
his credibility was in the [\h__\h] and

1818
01:17:33,410 --> 01:17:30,960
he couldn't be the point person anymore

1819
01:17:35,450 --> 01:17:33,420
or the guy in the spotlight telling the

1820
01:17:38,510 --> 01:17:35,460
stories so they needed a new

1821
01:17:40,189 --> 01:17:38,520
you know a new front man I think it's

1822
01:17:41,810 --> 01:17:40,199
it's pretty obvious to anybody watching

1823
01:17:43,610 --> 01:17:41,820
this over the last six years that

1824
01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:43,620
Elizondo has taken a step back from the

1825
01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:45,780
public eye I don't think that he's doing

1826
01:17:48,890 --> 01:17:47,460
anything less I don't think he's any

1827
01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:48,900
less involved in fact I think he's

1828
01:17:53,570 --> 01:17:50,940
significantly more involved and I think

1829
01:17:56,570 --> 01:17:53,580
he's just spending more of his time uh

1830
01:17:58,430 --> 01:17:56,580
in Washington DC and less of his time in

1831
01:18:00,110 --> 01:17:58,440
front of cameras is all

1832
01:18:01,550 --> 01:18:00,120
um but he's definitely had a role there

1833
01:18:03,709 --> 01:18:01,560
for a while at being the face of this

1834
01:18:05,689 --> 01:18:03,719
thing and as we know they tried to prop

1835
01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:05,699
other people up in that role from Tom to

1836
01:18:10,130 --> 01:18:07,560
Long Jeremy Corbell they've tried to

1837
01:18:12,290 --> 01:18:10,140
push other people into that role and now

1838
01:18:14,570 --> 01:18:12,300
you know maybe maybe they're using uh

1839
01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:14,580
this uh Feller for that maybe they're

1840
01:18:17,810 --> 01:18:17,100
trying to set him up as a new face to go

1841
01:18:19,310 --> 01:18:17,820
on

1842
01:18:21,649 --> 01:18:19,320
or maybe they're just trying to put

1843
01:18:24,530 --> 01:18:21,659
pressure on the Pentagon and and the the

1844
01:18:26,750 --> 01:18:24,540
uh house and the Senate on our on our

1845
01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:26,760
leadership in DC from outside of the

1846
01:18:30,169 --> 01:18:28,260
country because they they've maybe

1847
01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:30,179
they've hit a brick wall here I mean

1848
01:18:33,770 --> 01:18:31,500
they've already you know there's pretty

1849
01:18:35,149 --> 01:18:33,780
clear that there's links to a certain uh

1850
01:18:37,250 --> 01:18:35,159
you know a couple of different you know

1851
01:18:39,530 --> 01:18:37,260
Congress people uh whether it's uh

1852
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:39,540
burchett as you said earlier or you know

1853
01:18:45,169 --> 01:18:43,199
Marco Rubio or Andre Carson or you know

1854
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:45,179
there's others like The Usual Suspects I

1855
01:18:48,830 --> 01:18:47,040
feel like you know right but there's

1856
01:18:50,090 --> 01:18:48,840
only so much that those people can do

1857
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,100
and so now they're trying to get

1858
01:18:54,050 --> 01:18:51,840
pressure from our Allied countries to

1859
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:54,060
put pressure on us too to try to to

1860
01:18:57,770 --> 01:18:56,280
increase that that you know that

1861
01:19:00,110 --> 01:18:57,780
something's going to come out now I

1862
01:19:02,209 --> 01:19:00,120
don't what is there to come out I mean

1863
01:19:03,709 --> 01:19:02,219
there's not really you know if there was

1864
01:19:05,209 --> 01:19:03,719
any truth to these stories I think it

1865
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:05,219
already would have come out and so I

1866
01:19:10,250 --> 01:19:07,679
think they're really pushing hard on on

1867
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:10,260
a on a uh it's beating a dead horse you

1868
01:19:14,270 --> 01:19:12,540
know there's no there's no end game yeah

1869
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:14,280
thank you estimate of the situation for

1870
01:19:17,450 --> 01:19:15,780
your kindness generosity and support and

1871
01:19:18,890 --> 01:19:17,460
helping us to praise the cash and Lou

1872
01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:18,900
reviews is right I mentioned that on

1873
01:19:23,689 --> 01:19:21,120
yesterday's show was Brian Bender that

1874
01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:23,699
said he was groomed uh and it's also

1875
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:26,940
interesting that the debrief claims

1876
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:29,760
um or I'm sorry Leslie Keane and Ralph

1877
01:19:34,250 --> 01:19:32,400
Blumenthal claimed and copied and pasted

1878
01:19:36,050 --> 01:19:34,260
tweets that they both tweeted that the

1879
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:36,060
Washington Post did not pass on the

1880
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:38,159
story but for months we've heard that

1881
01:19:41,570 --> 01:19:39,360
there's a big story in the Washington

1882
01:19:43,669 --> 01:19:41,580
Post coming out and then it comes out in

1883
01:19:48,350 --> 01:19:43,679
the debrief so they had to have passed

1884
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:50,630
all these people were saying that this

1885
01:19:55,310 --> 01:19:52,620
Washington Post article is and of course

1886
01:19:56,810 --> 01:19:55,320
the sock Brigade uh Richard butt and all

1887
01:20:00,830 --> 01:19:56,820
these people wait until this Washington

1888
01:20:02,149 --> 01:20:00,840
Post expose comes out you know from what

1889
01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:02,159
I understand they had sent it to the

1890
01:20:05,330 --> 01:20:03,960
post first and the post was doing due

1891
01:20:06,830 --> 01:20:05,340
diligence and trying to confirm it

1892
01:20:09,050 --> 01:20:06,840
because it's a single store story as

1893
01:20:10,910 --> 01:20:09,060
Ross colethorp has openly confirmed it's

1894
01:20:12,410 --> 01:20:10,920
a single Source story they were trying

1895
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,420
to find a cooperating Source they

1896
01:20:15,410 --> 01:20:13,920
couldn't find it they were trying to

1897
01:20:18,110 --> 01:20:15,420
find cooperating facts they couldn't

1898
01:20:20,090 --> 01:20:18,120
find those and so they were as as Ross

1899
01:20:21,410 --> 01:20:20,100
Coulthard has said or I'm sorry Leslie

1900
01:20:23,390 --> 01:20:21,420
Keane and Ralph Blumenthal have said

1901
01:20:25,729 --> 01:20:23,400
they were taking too long to verify it

1902
01:20:26,990 --> 01:20:25,739
so they then went from the post no it

1903
01:20:28,729 --> 01:20:27,000
was the New York Times first then the

1904
01:20:31,310 --> 01:20:28,739
Washington Post they tried the hill they

1905
01:20:34,250 --> 01:20:31,320
tried Politico all four of those yeah

1906
01:20:36,649 --> 01:20:34,260
Brian Bender said political and multiple

1907
01:20:39,470 --> 01:20:36,659
more media Outlets passed on the story

1908
01:20:42,050 --> 01:20:39,480
that's what Ryan Bender said publicly so

1909
01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:42,060
so we've got Ross coldthart saying that

1910
01:20:45,649 --> 01:20:43,679
all those media Outlets that you

1911
01:20:47,630 --> 01:20:45,659
mentioned Manny didn't have the balls to

1912
01:20:49,490 --> 01:20:47,640
do the story we've got Brian Bender

1913
01:20:51,410 --> 01:20:49,500
confirming that Politico and multiple

1914
01:20:53,330 --> 01:20:51,420
other media Outlets passed on the story

1915
01:20:54,770 --> 01:20:53,340
then we have Leslie Keane and Ralph

1916
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:54,780
Blumenthal claiming that the Washington

1917
01:20:59,450 --> 01:20:57,600
Post did not pass on the story but

1918
01:21:01,550 --> 01:20:59,460
saying that they were under pressure to

1919
01:21:04,729 --> 01:21:01,560
put out the story and I want to ask you

1920
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:04,739
who was pressuring them to put out the

1921
01:21:09,229 --> 01:21:07,440
story quickly I don't know wait they

1922
01:21:11,450 --> 01:21:09,239
could wait a few weeks they could wait a

1923
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,460
week for the Western post or for the

1924
01:21:15,169 --> 01:21:13,679
largest largest story in human history

1925
01:21:16,970 --> 01:21:15,179
yeah I think they probably could have

1926
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,980
waited a couple more weeks to get it

1927
01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:19,040
vetted and to do a little fact checking

1928
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,480
but they didn't in this case who was

1929
01:21:25,070 --> 01:21:23,760
pressuring them I hate to say it but I

1930
01:21:26,450 --> 01:21:25,080
think it was probably because of that

1931
01:21:28,130 --> 01:21:26,460
Stephen Greer press conference that's

1932
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,140
coming up next week a lot of people

1933
01:21:32,570 --> 01:21:30,480
think that they wanted they wanted to

1934
01:21:34,130 --> 01:21:32,580
[\h__\h] all over his stupid fake

1935
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,140
whistleblowers and by the way we've

1936
01:21:39,229 --> 01:21:36,960
gotten to we've gotten to multiple of

1937
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:39,239
Greer's whistleblowers Manny and they're

1938
01:21:43,970 --> 01:21:42,000
all so fake career claims that he talked

1939
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:43,980
to groosh earlier this year oh yeah

1940
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,320
let's talk about that that's another one

1941
01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:48,719
maybe Greer was gonna outgrue before

1942
01:21:52,130 --> 01:21:50,580
they could doubt them that their story

1943
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:52,140
would come out and so they wanted to get

1944
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:54,120
their story out before

1945
01:21:57,950 --> 01:21:55,920
um whatever you know uh interview that

1946
01:22:00,290 --> 01:21:57,960
gurush gave to Greer comes out which

1947
01:22:02,450 --> 01:22:00,300
would maybe not be the best for his

1948
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,460
credibility you know yeah I think it was

1949
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,320
great though that Greer tried to tie his

1950
01:22:08,689 --> 01:22:06,480
crap wagon to this new whistleblower

1951
01:22:10,490 --> 01:22:08,699
saying that he mentored him and

1952
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,500
apparently David grues through a friend

1953
01:22:15,229 --> 01:22:12,480
released a statement claiming that that

1954
01:22:17,570 --> 01:22:15,239
never happened so here we have another

1955
01:22:20,030 --> 01:22:17,580
fabrication of Greer

1956
01:22:22,490 --> 01:22:20,040
but you know what was interesting he

1957
01:22:24,169 --> 01:22:22,500
said she said right I mean earlier in

1958
01:22:26,570 --> 01:22:24,179
our Discord somebody said and I think

1959
01:22:29,209 --> 01:22:26,580
this is very right oh my God if this guy

1960
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,219
was mentored by both Luis Elizondo and

1961
01:22:33,890 --> 01:22:31,199
Stephen Greer he's going to be the Super

1962
01:22:36,830 --> 01:22:33,900
UFO grifter of the Millennium if those

1963
01:22:39,530 --> 01:22:36,840
guys both mentored him you know

1964
01:22:42,110 --> 01:22:39,540
yeah yeah for sure he'll know it all and

1965
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:42,120
he'll be around in 25 years so I think

1966
01:22:46,850 --> 01:22:43,679
we should though talk from a human

1967
01:22:48,649 --> 01:22:46,860
perspective about this person David Rush

1968
01:22:51,169 --> 01:22:48,659
Manny because there's a few

1969
01:22:53,510 --> 01:22:51,179
possibilities that I've considered one

1970
01:22:56,990 --> 01:22:53,520
possibility is that he had a vague or

1971
01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:57,000
even uh active interest in these topics

1972
01:23:00,890 --> 01:22:59,280
and then he starts meeting some of these

1973
01:23:02,930 --> 01:23:00,900
people and they start filling in his

1974
01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:02,940
head with all these stories

1975
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,420
and what if he is really genuine and on

1976
01:23:10,610 --> 01:23:08,159
the level and he truly believes this

1977
01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:10,620
stuff and he just got his head like

1978
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:12,540
brainwashed with all of these stories

1979
01:23:19,070 --> 01:23:15,600
and he believed all these people and now

1980
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,080
he just came out like you know

1981
01:23:22,910 --> 01:23:21,120
like from a human perspective I feel a

1982
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,920
little bad for him because it could be

1983
01:23:26,750 --> 01:23:24,480
that Eric Davis and all these other

1984
01:23:28,910 --> 01:23:26,760
people filled his head with these alien

1985
01:23:32,030 --> 01:23:28,920
crash retrieval stories he becomes

1986
01:23:35,870 --> 01:23:32,040
convinced it's all true right and and

1987
01:23:38,570 --> 01:23:35,880
then he hooks up with Elizondo and gets

1988
01:23:41,090 --> 01:23:38,580
the Elizondo you know cult recruitment

1989
01:23:43,970 --> 01:23:41,100
treatment allegedly that others have

1990
01:23:46,250 --> 01:23:43,980
gotten and they put him out there to do

1991
01:23:49,250 --> 01:23:46,260
this so they could all make money and

1992
01:23:52,010 --> 01:23:49,260
keep the the so-called ball rolling and

1993
01:23:55,370 --> 01:23:52,020
it's all garbage and this guy's a victim

1994
01:23:57,410 --> 01:23:55,380
in this what if that's the case

1995
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:57,420
um it's it's possible that that what

1996
01:24:00,530 --> 01:23:58,800
you're seeing is kind of a two-pronged

1997
01:24:02,990 --> 01:24:00,540
attack you know I mean maybe part of it

1998
01:24:04,610 --> 01:24:03,000
started out where they fed him some

1999
01:24:06,890 --> 01:24:04,620
stories through people like Eric Davis

2000
01:24:09,410 --> 01:24:06,900
and and talked about these crash

2001
01:24:11,390 --> 01:24:09,420
retrieval programs and Etc and then you

2002
01:24:13,070 --> 01:24:11,400
come in with uh Lou Elizondo who's the

2003
01:24:14,930 --> 01:24:13,080
closing groomer who's like Hey we're

2004
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:14,940
going to make you a media celebrity your

2005
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:16,320
name's gonna be known around the world

2006
01:24:19,250 --> 01:24:17,520
we're going to get you on television

2007
01:24:21,649 --> 01:24:19,260
shows talk shows you're going to make a

2008
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:21,659
kajillion dollars you know telling your

2009
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:25,020
story and so it's they they've done that

2010
01:24:28,130 --> 01:24:26,880
before with other people you know so I

2011
01:24:29,689 --> 01:24:28,140
wouldn't be at all surprised if it's

2012
01:24:31,490 --> 01:24:29,699
something like that

2013
01:24:32,990 --> 01:24:31,500
um you know it's this is obviously isn't

2014
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:33,000
just a story that the guy just shot down

2015
01:24:36,890 --> 01:24:35,040
one day on his own and made up but then

2016
01:24:38,750 --> 01:24:36,900
again it isn't anything new either as we

2017
01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:38,760
were talking about earlier it's just a

2018
01:24:43,729 --> 01:24:40,800
little bit it's like one part Bob Lazar

2019
01:24:46,669 --> 01:24:43,739
one part kernel course so one part of

2020
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:46,679
Wilson Davis notes one part Davis was

2021
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:49,260
denying access to people to these

2022
01:24:54,770 --> 01:24:52,080
programs yeah and Matt Finley uh with a

2023
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:54,780
good point Colton's interview was also

2024
01:24:59,810 --> 01:24:57,600
presumably independent of Keane and

2025
01:25:02,209 --> 01:24:59,820
Blumenthal but yet they all coordinated

2026
01:25:04,250 --> 01:25:02,219
their release together so I find that

2027
01:25:06,410 --> 01:25:04,260
very suspicious and I'd like to know

2028
01:25:09,189 --> 01:25:06,420
also what do you think on the subject of

2029
01:25:11,810 --> 01:25:09,199
payment uh

2030
01:25:13,490 --> 01:25:11,820
does that money the waters if this guy's

2031
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:13,500
getting paid by any of these people to

2032
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:16,800
participate in these stories and I don't

2033
01:25:20,630 --> 01:25:18,719
know I mean there's part of me you know

2034
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:20,640
as being a guy who's working on films

2035
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:22,320
and stuff I say no because you you pay

2036
01:25:25,130 --> 01:25:23,760
people for their story it's just how

2037
01:25:27,290 --> 01:25:25,140
things work

2038
01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:27,300
um but it also depends on what how and

2039
01:25:30,890 --> 01:25:28,800
when and what are you paying them for

2040
01:25:32,750 --> 01:25:30,900
you know if it's an exorbitant amount of

2041
01:25:35,390 --> 01:25:32,760
money then certainly if it's a nominal

2042
01:25:37,570 --> 01:25:35,400
fee to cover his expenses to travel to

2043
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:37,580
to do interviews or something then no

2044
01:25:43,070 --> 01:25:41,040
but again I guess that would guess on

2045
01:25:45,770 --> 01:25:43,080
where the money is coming from and how

2046
01:25:47,930 --> 01:25:45,780
much it is you know um is it actually

2047
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:47,940
coming from these this journalist like

2048
01:25:52,370 --> 01:25:50,159
Ross colthorne or is it coming from an

2049
01:25:54,350 --> 01:25:52,380
outside institution that say maybe a guy

2050
01:25:57,530 --> 01:25:54,360
like Elizondo has connections to who's

2051
01:25:58,850 --> 01:25:57,540
sliding money to him to to entice him to

2052
01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:58,860
tell his story

2053
01:26:02,030 --> 01:26:00,780
um you know one case would probably be

2054
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:02,040
legitimate the other case would

2055
01:26:08,209 --> 01:26:05,040
definitely not be very uh ethical or or

2056
01:26:10,610 --> 01:26:08,219
you know moral but um then again there

2057
01:26:11,930 --> 01:26:10,620
hasn't been a whole plethora of ethics

2058
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:11,940
and morals when we're talking about some

2059
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:13,920
of these people anyways so it really is

2060
01:26:19,610 --> 01:26:17,040
a cesspool like it is accessible I kind

2061
01:26:22,669 --> 01:26:19,620
of missed the days where I didn't know

2062
01:26:24,410 --> 01:26:22,679
so much about the characters involved in

2063
01:26:27,229 --> 01:26:24,420
selling these stories I would just

2064
01:26:28,910 --> 01:26:27,239
listen and and not really think too

2065
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:28,920
deeply about I kind of miss those days

2066
01:26:33,530 --> 01:26:31,679
because when you get into this that

2067
01:26:37,070 --> 01:26:33,540
you're right there's no morals there's

2068
01:26:39,229 --> 01:26:37,080
no ethics you know and I'm very troubled

2069
01:26:40,729 --> 01:26:39,239
by this Russ coldthart like nope don't

2070
01:26:43,550 --> 01:26:40,739
talk about that we're saving it for the

2071
01:26:46,490 --> 01:26:43,560
documentary so is this all a coordinated

2072
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:46,500
effort to sell a documentary let's use

2073
01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:49,199
the media to Pump It Up for all we know

2074
01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:51,540
and that's another thing Ross coldthart

2075
01:26:56,209 --> 01:26:53,880
does this interview in early May

2076
01:26:58,729 --> 01:26:56,219
and he waits a full month to release

2077
01:27:00,830 --> 01:26:58,739
this no he's coordinating with all these

2078
01:27:02,930 --> 01:27:00,840
people with Blumenthal with Keane in my

2079
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,940
opinion they coordinated this to all

2080
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:05,280
drop on the same day they had to have

2081
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:08,400
because oh you know there's no way that

2082
01:27:12,649 --> 01:27:10,560
you sit on a story that you truly think

2083
01:27:15,290 --> 01:27:12,659
is the biggest story in human history

2084
01:27:17,330 --> 01:27:15,300
for a month after you film it you know

2085
01:27:18,649 --> 01:27:17,340
yeah on Bryce Abel's uh Twitter he even

2086
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:18,659
admitted that he said that they were

2087
01:27:23,330 --> 01:27:21,840
waiting uh for the um uh keen and

2088
01:27:24,830 --> 01:27:23,340
Blumenthal article to get released

2089
01:27:26,689 --> 01:27:24,840
before they they dropped their

2090
01:27:28,490 --> 01:27:26,699
interviews so there's definitely a

2091
01:27:31,010 --> 01:27:28,500
collusion going on there

2092
01:27:33,290 --> 01:27:31,020
um which yes makes it smell like less of

2093
01:27:36,110 --> 01:27:33,300
a of an actual journalistic Endeavor and

2094
01:27:38,030 --> 01:27:36,120
more of a a PR scheme for a documentary

2095
01:27:39,410 --> 01:27:38,040
it's I hate to say it but that's kind of

2096
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:39,420
what it sounds like is this whole thing

2097
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:42,719
is just a big PR stunt

2098
01:27:46,070 --> 01:27:44,040
um you know which is going to be

2099
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:46,080
interesting because there's not really

2100
01:27:50,209 --> 01:27:47,760
any evidence and and there's so many

2101
01:27:51,470 --> 01:27:50,219
people all over this story I don't know

2102
01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:51,480
how they're going to be able to get you

2103
01:27:53,629 --> 01:27:52,560
know who's going to watch us who's going

2104
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:53,639
to want to pay to watch that who's going

2105
01:27:57,530 --> 01:27:55,679
to want to pay money to Ross Coulthard

2106
01:28:00,110 --> 01:27:57,540
to watch this documentary when we've

2107
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:00,120
already debunked the story you know 12

2108
01:28:07,850 --> 01:28:05,590
yeah I probably will you're right you

2109
01:28:11,149 --> 01:28:07,860
misunderestimate the uh

2110
01:28:13,250 --> 01:28:11,159
the uh the believer crowd right

2111
01:28:14,990 --> 01:28:13,260
you know and and I'm kind of are you

2112
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:15,000
shocked a little bit I'm kind of shocked

2113
01:28:19,729 --> 01:28:17,760
that there is no evidence and people are

2114
01:28:21,290 --> 01:28:19,739
still just all chips in this is the real

2115
01:28:23,570 --> 01:28:21,300
deal this is disclosed you got people

2116
01:28:25,790 --> 01:28:23,580
saying this is disclosure disclosure

2117
01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:25,800
started yesterday and got a lot of

2118
01:28:29,149 --> 01:28:27,600
traction on Twitter and in particular

2119
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,159
there was some really big name Twitter

2120
01:28:33,830 --> 01:28:31,440
accounts some in the in the millions

2121
01:28:35,629 --> 01:28:33,840
that retweeted and were promoting this

2122
01:28:38,810 --> 01:28:35,639
um do any of them know anything about

2123
01:28:41,390 --> 01:28:38,820
ufology none of them none of them uh you

2124
01:28:43,490 --> 01:28:41,400
know I don't know the history no that's

2125
01:28:45,290 --> 01:28:43,500
fine and all you know like I I I get

2126
01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:45,300
that but it got some real big traction

2127
01:28:48,950 --> 01:28:46,679
on Twitter and while what's interesting

2128
01:28:50,450 --> 01:28:48,960
is on Reddit the same thing happened it

2129
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:50,460
was all over the UFO and alien

2130
01:28:57,050 --> 01:28:53,760
subreddits however the world news and

2131
01:28:59,270 --> 01:28:57,060
news subreddits which are uh I think

2132
01:29:01,129 --> 01:28:59,280
together have an aggregated like 100

2133
01:29:03,770 --> 01:29:01,139
million you know people subscribe to

2134
01:29:05,570 --> 01:29:03,780
those two reddits anybody who posts the

2135
01:29:07,550 --> 01:29:05,580
link to this on there is getting banned

2136
01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:07,560
is getting bad they're not even they

2137
01:29:11,450 --> 01:29:08,760
don't care if you're repeating the Fox

2138
01:29:13,490 --> 01:29:11,460
News version the CNN version the no

2139
01:29:17,090 --> 01:29:13,500
really they're just Banning people for

2140
01:29:19,129 --> 01:29:17,100
posting it Banning it 100 as as PR as

2141
01:29:21,890 --> 01:29:19,139
fake news it is not allowed on the on

2142
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:21,900
the world news or the the hashtag or the

2143
01:29:27,050 --> 01:29:25,440
slash R news subreddits whatsoever and

2144
01:29:28,610 --> 01:29:27,060
that's that should tell people a lot too

2145
01:29:30,590 --> 01:29:28,620
that there's a lot of people out there

2146
01:29:32,390 --> 01:29:30,600
who are not buying this are not going to

2147
01:29:34,250 --> 01:29:32,400
play into this game are not going to be

2148
01:29:36,050 --> 01:29:34,260
a part of that copy paste reporting are

2149
01:29:37,850 --> 01:29:36,060
not gonna entertain these silly ideas

2150
01:29:39,649 --> 01:29:37,860
well that's good news you know what else

2151
01:29:41,090 --> 01:29:39,659
is good news I don't know if you're

2152
01:29:43,310 --> 01:29:41,100
aware of this Manny but I'm looking on

2153
01:29:45,229 --> 01:29:43,320
the news Nation website and some of

2154
01:29:48,770 --> 01:29:45,239
these stories like whistleblower says

2155
01:29:52,250 --> 01:29:48,780
UFOs triggered a multi-decade cold war

2156
01:29:56,030 --> 01:29:52,260
um you know it got 61 000 views

2157
01:29:57,890 --> 01:29:56,040
which makes me think that this story is

2158
01:29:59,810 --> 01:29:57,900
not quite as big as it appears to be to

2159
01:30:02,990 --> 01:29:59,820
us I mean it's all over you know

2160
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,000
conspiracy land and UFO land but to

2161
01:30:07,070 --> 01:30:05,280
regular folks like yeah it's not it's

2162
01:30:07,850 --> 01:30:07,080
not anything I had more people talk to

2163
01:30:09,890 --> 01:30:07,860
me

2164
01:30:12,169 --> 01:30:09,900
I had many more like

2165
01:30:13,729 --> 01:30:12,179
neighbors friends and relatives talk to

2166
01:30:16,010 --> 01:30:13,739
me about the New York Times article

2167
01:30:18,290 --> 01:30:16,020
nobody's mentioned this to me from the

2168
01:30:19,729 --> 01:30:18,300
from the regular world you know nobody

2169
01:30:22,010 --> 01:30:19,739
said like oh Stephen what do you think

2170
01:30:24,950 --> 01:30:22,020
of this whistleblower you know nobody

2171
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:24,960
said anything to me only only UFO people

2172
01:30:30,110 --> 01:30:28,080
seem to be at all engaged in this and we

2173
01:30:32,689 --> 01:30:30,120
have a story an hour ago

2174
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:32,699
on news Nation Bryce zabel UFO

2175
01:30:39,050 --> 01:30:36,480
whistleblowers actions 5 000 views that

2176
01:30:42,169 --> 01:30:39,060
is paltry if if you're talking about the

2177
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:42,179
fact that this is a real television news

2178
01:30:46,370 --> 01:30:45,120
uh I know they're new as a television

2179
01:30:48,950 --> 01:30:46,380
news

2180
01:30:51,470 --> 01:30:48,960
Channel but still you've got the backing

2181
01:30:54,530 --> 01:30:51,480
of a television news channel and your

2182
01:30:56,629 --> 01:30:54,540
YouTube views are at 5 000 views

2183
01:30:58,250 --> 01:30:56,639
yeah and they still seem to be milking

2184
01:31:01,129 --> 01:30:58,260
this man they're just putting out these

2185
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:01,139
little five minute videos and then you

2186
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:02,639
know four or five hours later here's

2187
01:31:07,970 --> 01:31:04,860
another five minute video

2188
01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:07,980
and I don't know where where is the full

2189
01:31:13,010 --> 01:31:10,560
interview of Cole cart and and this is

2190
01:31:14,990 --> 01:31:13,020
it's not out hasn't been released yet

2191
01:31:16,490 --> 01:31:15,000
they said they were going to release it

2192
01:31:18,350 --> 01:31:16,500
yesterday though

2193
01:31:20,209 --> 01:31:18,360
you know I think that news nation is

2194
01:31:22,430 --> 01:31:20,219
Sunday is going to come out with a like

2195
01:31:24,350 --> 01:31:22,440
a one hour chopped up version of it but

2196
01:31:26,090 --> 01:31:24,360
the full the full seven hour interview

2197
01:31:28,129 --> 01:31:26,100
or whatever won't be released for a long

2198
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:28,139
time I'm guaranteeing that I don't think

2199
01:31:31,129 --> 01:31:29,520
they're gonna yeah they're gonna delve

2200
01:31:32,930 --> 01:31:31,139
this out five minutes at a shot they're

2201
01:31:34,970 --> 01:31:32,940
gonna milk this to the ends of the Earth

2202
01:31:36,590 --> 01:31:34,980
I think yeah he's got to save it for his

2203
01:31:38,270 --> 01:31:36,600
documentary remember

2204
01:31:39,770 --> 01:31:38,280
I mean that's that's really what it

2205
01:31:41,810 --> 01:31:39,780
comes down to

2206
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:41,820
um yeah so yeah like I said I think a

2207
01:31:46,010 --> 01:31:43,920
one hour piece on news Nation Max is or

2208
01:31:47,330 --> 01:31:46,020
news news nation is going to come out

2209
01:31:49,610 --> 01:31:47,340
um but that again is not going to be the

2210
01:31:51,890 --> 01:31:49,620
whole thing and I think after that

2211
01:31:53,149 --> 01:31:51,900
um I think that's when uh cool fart will

2212
01:31:54,890 --> 01:31:53,159
then have access to the whole thing

2213
01:31:56,270 --> 01:31:54,900
first documentary because it sounds like

2214
01:31:57,950 --> 01:31:56,280
news Nation paid for the interview so

2215
01:32:00,110 --> 01:31:57,960
they probably own the footage

2216
01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:00,120
um I'm guessing but maybe they licensed

2217
01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:03,360
it to to um cold art or maybe he had a

2218
01:32:06,169 --> 01:32:04,800
um agreement with them where like okay

2219
01:32:08,450 --> 01:32:06,179
you guys will get first dibs you can run

2220
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,460
it for XYZ then I get to use it for my

2221
01:32:12,110 --> 01:32:10,080
documentary and then it's all yours or

2222
01:32:13,610 --> 01:32:12,120
whatever I guess we'll see I'm not

2223
01:32:14,810 --> 01:32:13,620
holding my breath about the documentary

2224
01:32:16,430 --> 01:32:14,820
I have a feeling it's going to be more

2225
01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:16,440
of the spies and Lords bit that he did

2226
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:19,199
in uh you know in 2016 I think it was

2227
01:32:24,350 --> 01:32:22,800
about the UK Parliament uh weird stuff

2228
01:32:25,270 --> 01:32:24,360
that was going on there

2229
01:32:28,729 --> 01:32:25,280
um

2230
01:32:32,510 --> 01:32:28,739
apparently I I want to share this this

2231
01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:32,520
is interesting apparently uh some of the

2232
01:32:39,169 --> 01:32:34,860
True Believers are very unhappy with my

2233
01:32:41,030 --> 01:32:39,179
reporting uh man and uh this is

2234
01:32:44,030 --> 01:32:41,040
interesting

2235
01:32:46,910 --> 01:32:44,040
um there is a search suggestion ban on

2236
01:32:48,830 --> 01:32:46,920
my Twitter right now and that is most

2237
01:32:51,649 --> 01:32:48,840
likely the result of people Mass

2238
01:32:54,050 --> 01:32:51,659
reporting my tweets

2239
01:32:55,550 --> 01:32:54,060
yeah I've had those before temporarily

2240
01:32:58,610 --> 01:32:55,560
like right after who's Luke came out I

2241
01:33:00,770 --> 01:32:58,620
had one of those so people are people

2242
01:33:02,330 --> 01:33:00,780
are actively reporting my tweets where

2243
01:33:04,669 --> 01:33:02,340
we're just reporting the truth and

2244
01:33:07,790 --> 01:33:04,679
talking about this story so that people

2245
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:07,800
cannot find my stories on Twitter

2246
01:33:11,930 --> 01:33:10,320
yeah very nice you know you know you

2247
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:11,940
know what a great way to show that you

2248
01:33:17,510 --> 01:33:14,960
can't win a debate is many to just

2249
01:33:20,270 --> 01:33:17,520
muzzle the person you're having the

2250
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:20,280
debate with that's just a great way to

2251
01:33:24,890 --> 01:33:22,560
prove that your side is right right sure

2252
01:33:26,470 --> 01:33:24,900
yeah and uh and I thank the person that

2253
01:33:30,350 --> 01:33:26,480
sent that to me they know who they are

2254
01:33:32,450 --> 01:33:30,360
uh I wasn't aware uh and and I'm told by

2255
01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:32,460
this person that that's likely the

2256
01:33:36,250 --> 01:33:34,320
result of

2257
01:33:39,169 --> 01:33:36,260
um

2258
01:33:42,110 --> 01:33:39,179
these UFO people are probably Mass

2259
01:33:45,169 --> 01:33:42,120
reporting your tweets bunch of [\h__\h]

2260
01:33:47,570 --> 01:33:45,179
yeah yeah yeah I mean your arguments are

2261
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:47,580
so weak they can't withstand debate then

2262
01:33:52,310 --> 01:33:49,440
maybe you shouldn't be in the debate

2263
01:33:55,250 --> 01:33:52,320
maybe you know go live in your bubble

2264
01:33:58,129 --> 01:33:55,260
your delusion bubble you know your Echo

2265
01:33:59,930 --> 01:33:58,139
chamber right and Twitter is one of the

2266
01:34:02,090 --> 01:33:59,940
worst spots for that because you know

2267
01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:02,100
this really is kind of their backyard as

2268
01:34:06,290 --> 01:34:04,440
far as it goes the echo chamber goes

2269
01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:06,300
really they don't like when you question

2270
01:34:10,129 --> 01:34:08,159
anything on Twitter UFO Twitter yeah

2271
01:34:11,810 --> 01:34:10,139
look at Art and paranormal says I had to

2272
01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:11,820
manually put your name in my tweet to

2273
01:34:17,390 --> 01:34:14,639
share this show yeah so I'm getting

2274
01:34:19,790 --> 01:34:17,400
Shadow banned by a bunch of like people

2275
01:34:22,370 --> 01:34:19,800
who don't like to apparently don't like

2276
01:34:25,129 --> 01:34:22,380
the truth because we haven't said

2277
01:34:27,770 --> 01:34:25,139
anything here we we uh you know and

2278
01:34:30,229 --> 01:34:27,780
tonight oh that's unfortunate for them

2279
01:34:31,790 --> 01:34:30,239
because you know don't you think Manny

2280
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:31,800
that a lot of people could spend my

2281
01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:34,800
story earlier tonight as as proof of

2282
01:34:39,290 --> 01:34:36,960
this guy's legitimacy look he's meeting

2283
01:34:42,530 --> 01:34:39,300
with Canadian Parliament members he must

2284
01:34:44,870 --> 01:34:42,540
be the real deal I'm sure they could

2285
01:34:46,629 --> 01:34:44,880
have but now they just banned my story

2286
01:34:49,490 --> 01:34:46,639
and we're the only one that has it

2287
01:34:51,649 --> 01:34:49,500
congratulations you dumb [\h__\h] you

2288
01:34:53,209 --> 01:34:51,659
know no they'll tell their version on

2289
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:53,219
their little podcasts and in their web

2290
01:34:57,950 --> 01:34:55,620
blogs where oh yeah and it was free now

2291
01:34:59,390 --> 01:34:57,960
I know nobody will be mentioning my show

2292
01:35:02,689 --> 01:34:59,400
or mine oh they won't mention you for

2293
01:35:05,510 --> 01:35:02,699
breaking the story yeah yeah and you

2294
01:35:08,330 --> 01:35:05,520
know what else is bothering me Manny the

2295
01:35:10,550 --> 01:35:08,340
fact that so many of these UFO podcasts

2296
01:35:12,590 --> 01:35:10,560
and UFO shows are milking this story to

2297
01:35:14,030 --> 01:35:12,600
death but they're bringing nothing to

2298
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:14,040
the table

2299
01:35:18,410 --> 01:35:15,840
they're literally bringing nothing

2300
01:35:22,450 --> 01:35:18,420
they're like let's read the article

2301
01:35:25,810 --> 01:35:22,460
again you know or let's get five people

2302
01:35:28,250 --> 01:35:25,820
on different days to talk about the same

2303
01:35:30,950 --> 01:35:28,260
article they're not bringing anything

2304
01:35:32,990 --> 01:35:30,960
new to the story and that bothers me

2305
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:33,000
because you know I'm supposed to compete

2306
01:35:37,610 --> 01:35:34,739
with these lazy people that are doing

2307
01:35:39,530 --> 01:35:37,620
nothing but talk you know talk is cheap

2308
01:35:41,629 --> 01:35:39,540
try spending all day on the phone with

2309
01:35:43,129 --> 01:35:41,639
Canada to get one story

2310
01:35:46,910 --> 01:35:43,139
you know

2311
01:35:48,830 --> 01:35:46,920
yeah it's not as easy as people like to

2312
01:35:49,850 --> 01:35:48,840
think it is you know and especially when

2313
01:35:51,770 --> 01:35:49,860
you're out there trying to get to the

2314
01:35:53,570 --> 01:35:51,780
truth and not just puppeting what you

2315
01:35:55,910 --> 01:35:53,580
know somebody told you to say which

2316
01:35:58,430 --> 01:35:55,920
these groomed media assets like UFO Joe

2317
01:36:00,590 --> 01:35:58,440
and Chris sharp and you know half a

2318
01:36:01,910 --> 01:36:00,600
dozen podcasts out there do they just

2319
01:36:03,169 --> 01:36:01,920
puppet what they're you know it's just

2320
01:36:04,790 --> 01:36:03,179
like oh somebody told me this okay I'm

2321
01:36:07,370 --> 01:36:04,800
gonna type that oh I think the best

2322
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:07,380
parrot is UFO Jesus he just repeats

2323
01:36:13,250 --> 01:36:11,040
anything that that they say he has no

2324
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:13,260
independent thoughts kills what's like

2325
01:36:18,290 --> 01:36:15,360
you can't even think for himself he just

2326
01:36:21,950 --> 01:36:18,300
oh they said this so I'll repeat it it's

2327
01:36:24,590 --> 01:36:21,960
terrible it's really terrible right I I

2328
01:36:26,390 --> 01:36:24,600
I don't know so I want to get your

2329
01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,400
thoughts on where where do you think

2330
01:36:31,070 --> 01:36:28,560
that this story is going next is this

2331
01:36:33,649 --> 01:36:31,080
going to all come crashing down in the

2332
01:36:35,870 --> 01:36:33,659
next couple of weeks or is this going to

2333
01:36:38,450 --> 01:36:35,880
take a year and then there'll be no

2334
01:36:40,729 --> 01:36:38,460
evidence before people Tire of the story

2335
01:36:42,410 --> 01:36:40,739
and they want the evidence like this

2336
01:36:44,090 --> 01:36:42,420
seems to be the way that it usually goes

2337
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:44,100
like people are okay okay with the story

2338
01:36:48,530 --> 01:36:46,560
for a while but after a while the voice

2339
01:36:50,689 --> 01:36:48,540
is demanding to see the evidence or the

2340
01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:50,699
proof of the story become louder

2341
01:36:54,530 --> 01:36:52,080
you know

2342
01:36:56,090 --> 01:36:54,540
yeah I I think that this story has got a

2343
01:36:58,669 --> 01:36:56,100
timer on it that's been started how long

2344
01:37:00,830 --> 01:36:58,679
that's going to be I don't know I I just

2345
01:37:02,930 --> 01:37:00,840
don't see I don't see any

2346
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:02,940
um I don't see any extra evidence I mean

2347
01:37:07,070 --> 01:37:04,800
unless the guy just comes up with a box

2348
01:37:09,410 --> 01:37:07,080
full of evidence and drops it and says

2349
01:37:11,149 --> 01:37:09,420
that it's uh says that it's you know and

2350
01:37:13,070 --> 01:37:11,159
we haven't and it's incontrovertible

2351
01:37:14,450 --> 01:37:13,080
that'd be different but I just don't see

2352
01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:14,460
that happening I mean I think I think

2353
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:16,260
they kind of shot their wad here at the

2354
01:37:20,450 --> 01:37:18,960
beginning and gave it all away I mean so

2355
01:37:21,649 --> 01:37:20,460
what more can he say it's probably just

2356
01:37:22,490 --> 01:37:21,659
gonna be more of the same I mean it

2357
01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:22,500
really doesn't matter if the guy

2358
01:37:25,729 --> 01:37:23,699
speculates that these are

2359
01:37:27,110 --> 01:37:25,739
interdimensional craft or time traveling

2360
01:37:29,390 --> 01:37:27,120
humans from the past or the future it

2361
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:29,400
doesn't matter there's zero evidence at

2362
01:37:32,390 --> 01:37:30,719
this point so there's really no reason

2363
01:37:34,129 --> 01:37:32,400
to listen to anything else that he has

2364
01:37:35,270 --> 01:37:34,139
to say because it's all going to be more

2365
01:37:36,530 --> 01:37:35,280
of the same

2366
01:37:38,030 --> 01:37:36,540
um will people get tired of that

2367
01:37:39,530 --> 01:37:38,040
probably

2368
01:37:42,590 --> 01:37:39,540
um and move on to the next news cycle

2369
01:37:43,850 --> 01:37:42,600
you know but um unfortunately there's

2370
01:37:45,890 --> 01:37:43,860
going to be those core group of people

2371
01:37:47,990 --> 01:37:45,900
that just cling to that story as truth

2372
01:37:49,790 --> 01:37:48,000
as we saw I mean Elizondo is a perfect

2373
01:37:51,229 --> 01:37:49,800
example you'd think that he would be

2374
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:51,239
completely discredited but he's not

2375
01:37:54,890 --> 01:37:53,040
people still believe that he ran hey

2376
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:54,900
Tiffany he was the world's greatest UFO

2377
01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:56,400
Hunter and he's this big Champion for

2378
01:37:59,570 --> 01:37:58,080
disclosure even though there's been

2379
01:38:01,850 --> 01:37:59,580
mountains of evidence that show that

2380
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:01,860
he's none of these things so I mean yeah

2381
01:38:07,610 --> 01:38:05,040
I agree with you on that and you know if

2382
01:38:09,290 --> 01:38:07,620
if if if do you think it's going to be

2383
01:38:11,930 --> 01:38:09,300
damaging to

2384
01:38:14,930 --> 01:38:11,940
if it becomes very clear that he's

2385
01:38:17,450 --> 01:38:14,940
behind this story or that he did groom

2386
01:38:20,990 --> 01:38:17,460
this guy and get him ready and push him

2387
01:38:22,910 --> 01:38:21,000
into the spotlight or or if he's paying

2388
01:38:25,250 --> 01:38:22,920
him like people have suggested he may

2389
01:38:26,689 --> 01:38:25,260
have some Financial relationship with

2390
01:38:28,430 --> 01:38:26,699
them and by the way that's rumors and

2391
01:38:29,930 --> 01:38:28,440
speculations it's not been confirmed I

2392
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:29,940
don't know that he does but I'm asking

2393
01:38:34,430 --> 01:38:32,639
the question and why why can't we ask

2394
01:38:39,550 --> 01:38:34,440
Lou Elizondo do you have a business

2395
01:38:42,530 --> 01:38:41,450
why would you even ask him he'll just

2396
01:38:44,930 --> 01:38:42,540
light through his teeth that's what the

2397
01:38:47,090 --> 01:38:44,940
guy does but yeah I mean I think it's

2398
01:38:49,010 --> 01:38:47,100
if it comes out that all that that is is

2399
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:49,020
true then it'll be it'll be possible you

2400
01:38:52,129 --> 01:38:50,639
know will it defame him will it be

2401
01:38:53,149 --> 01:38:52,139
enough for people just to jump off the

2402
01:38:55,490 --> 01:38:53,159
fence and be like oh this is just

2403
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:55,500
[\h__\h] I would think so but most of

2404
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,400
those people are already there without

2405
01:39:00,649 --> 01:38:58,800
that you know because it's just it's a

2406
01:39:02,450 --> 01:39:00,659
huge story with no evidence there's not

2407
01:39:04,430 --> 01:39:02,460
much there I mean what what can we say I

2408
01:39:07,250 --> 01:39:04,440
mean is it entertaining sure is it great

2409
01:39:09,290 --> 01:39:07,260
sure but I read two um Anonymous you

2410
01:39:10,729 --> 01:39:09,300
know uh you know Reddit whistleblowers

2411
01:39:12,770 --> 01:39:10,739
who were doing the same thing last week

2412
01:39:15,050 --> 01:39:12,780
off of 4chan or something there was one

2413
01:39:16,850 --> 01:39:15,060
guy who founded part of a you know

2414
01:39:19,310 --> 01:39:16,860
reverse engineering program and that

2415
01:39:21,110 --> 01:39:19,320
there's a secret UFO base in the Bermuda

2416
01:39:22,910 --> 01:39:21,120
Triangle triangle that's cranking out

2417
01:39:25,209 --> 01:39:22,920
these things and his story honestly was

2418
01:39:27,770 --> 01:39:25,219
far more entertaining than grouches is

2419
01:39:29,090 --> 01:39:27,780
so I don't know I'd just rather go there

2420
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:29,100
I mean at least that guy at the end was

2421
01:39:33,110 --> 01:39:30,480
just like yeah this is all alarm but

2422
01:39:35,149 --> 01:39:33,120
this is fun you know it's cool well it's

2423
01:39:37,070 --> 01:39:35,159
interesting that we can confirm that we

2424
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:37,080
can already connect this guy with some

2425
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:40,800
of the normal let's say uh you know cast

2426
01:39:48,770 --> 01:39:45,360
of characters like Eric Davis Gary Nolan

2427
01:39:50,570 --> 01:39:48,780
um you know and and uh Luella zando is

2428
01:39:52,030 --> 01:39:50,580
calling him a hero and Chris melon is

2429
01:39:56,750 --> 01:39:52,040
calling him a hero

2430
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:56,760
so you know and I'm just kind of shocked

2431
01:40:01,189 --> 01:39:58,320
that this story has any traction

2432
01:40:03,590 --> 01:40:01,199
considering Ross coldthart's last big

2433
01:40:06,890 --> 01:40:03,600
UFO story was promising us that he had

2434
01:40:08,810 --> 01:40:06,900
conclusive proof of alien technology all

2435
01:40:11,629 --> 01:40:08,820
confirmed by this man cutting Michio

2436
01:40:13,250 --> 01:40:11,639
Kaku go talk to Michio Kaku he didn't

2437
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:13,260
confirm anything they didn't have any

2438
01:40:16,550 --> 01:40:15,840
evidence not only did they not have you

2439
01:40:22,430 --> 01:40:16,560
know

2440
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,440
no evidence of any alien technology they

2441
01:40:26,209 --> 01:40:24,239
they thought they might get some I guess

2442
01:40:30,410 --> 01:40:26,219
if they did the analysis but they never

2443
01:40:32,810 --> 01:40:30,420
did it so but here we are you know rinse

2444
01:40:34,669 --> 01:40:32,820
and repeat you just do the cosmicon

2445
01:40:37,430 --> 01:40:34,679
shuffle hope everybody forgets your last

2446
01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:37,440
story was a big dud Bluff nothing burger

2447
01:40:41,629 --> 01:40:39,360
and they come out with an even bigger

2448
01:40:43,250 --> 01:40:41,639
one don't you think this is the big if

2449
01:40:45,890 --> 01:40:43,260
this turns out to all be a bluff

2450
01:40:47,629 --> 01:40:45,900
wouldn't this be like the biggest UFO

2451
01:40:49,610 --> 01:40:47,639
Bluff ever

2452
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:49,620
it's a pretty big I think it would it

2453
01:40:54,649 --> 01:40:51,600
you know maybe they didn't intend it for

2454
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:54,659
it to get so go so viral and get so big

2455
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:56,880
but um you know and in a lot of ways I

2456
01:40:59,570 --> 01:40:57,840
think it is

2457
01:41:00,830 --> 01:40:59,580
um I think it's gonna be big and I think

2458
01:41:02,810 --> 01:41:00,840
it's going to continue to kind of

2459
01:41:04,250 --> 01:41:02,820
snowball I mean you saw a few more

2460
01:41:06,350 --> 01:41:04,260
mainstream media Outlets picking up on

2461
01:41:08,810 --> 01:41:06,360
it today but I don't think any of them

2462
01:41:10,490 --> 01:41:08,820
are really you know trying to to say

2463
01:41:12,229 --> 01:41:10,500
that it's it's authentic or that they've

2464
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:12,239
they've dug into this guy's claims or

2465
01:41:15,229 --> 01:41:14,159
whatever they're really just paired in

2466
01:41:16,850 --> 01:41:15,239
the debrief piece they're doing that

2467
01:41:18,709 --> 01:41:16,860
copy paste reporting thing and it's

2468
01:41:20,030 --> 01:41:18,719
almost like they were just waiting for

2469
01:41:22,250 --> 01:41:20,040
somebody else to get the egg on their

2470
01:41:23,629 --> 01:41:22,260
shirt if it's wrong you know but as long

2471
01:41:24,890 --> 01:41:23,639
as somebody else was first you can't be

2472
01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:24,900
the one you know that's the only one

2473
01:41:27,950 --> 01:41:26,159
who's responsible but I don't see it

2474
01:41:29,689 --> 01:41:27,960
that way any of the media Outlets that

2475
01:41:31,189 --> 01:41:29,699
are copy pasting this stuff

2476
01:41:32,810 --> 01:41:31,199
I'm going to look sideways at from here

2477
01:41:35,209 --> 01:41:32,820
on out and I hope other people do too

2478
01:41:37,070 --> 01:41:35,219
you know if it's if it's the New York

2479
01:41:38,810 --> 01:41:37,080
Times if it's Fox News if it's if it's

2480
01:41:40,609 --> 01:41:38,820
the Washington Post if it's the New

2481
01:41:42,890 --> 01:41:40,619
Yorker magazine anyone who's running

2482
01:41:43,970 --> 01:41:42,900
this copy paste garbage look at them

2483
01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:43,980
sideways don't give them your money

2484
01:41:47,209 --> 01:41:45,840
don't give me your money they're they're

2485
01:41:48,830 --> 01:41:47,219
you know if they're not if they're not

2486
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,840
the balls to stand behind a story and do

2487
01:41:52,129 --> 01:41:50,159
some research and say yeah I'll put my

2488
01:41:54,290 --> 01:41:52,139
credibility on the line don't give me

2489
01:41:55,850 --> 01:41:54,300
your money you know um go find the

2490
01:41:57,890 --> 01:41:55,860
Independent News sources go find free

2491
01:42:00,109 --> 01:41:57,900
news sources go make up your own mind

2492
01:42:02,270 --> 01:42:00,119
and use your brain because apparently in

2493
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:02,280
the news business now that's what passes

2494
01:42:06,770 --> 01:42:04,320
for journalism is just you know so and

2495
01:42:08,930 --> 01:42:06,780
so reported this click and you know and

2496
01:42:10,430 --> 01:42:08,940
that's how we get fake news that's how

2497
01:42:12,830 --> 01:42:10,440
we get

2498
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,840
fake news that's easy to manipulate it's

2499
01:42:15,770 --> 01:42:14,400
easy to manipulate if you have the right

2500
01:42:17,689 --> 01:42:15,780
backing if you have the right contacts

2501
01:42:19,129 --> 01:42:17,699
you could put a story about anything out

2502
01:42:20,990 --> 01:42:19,139
there and people will believe it because

2503
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:21,000
it's been spread on so many different

2504
01:42:25,070 --> 01:42:22,560
Outlets no matter you know what my

2505
01:42:27,050 --> 01:42:25,080
favorite example of that and and it is a

2506
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:27,060
conspiracy land story but the Kandahar

2507
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:29,760
giant story

2508
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:31,679
like I just think that's one of the most

2509
01:42:36,229 --> 01:42:34,080
ridiculous things I've ever heard and

2510
01:42:38,270 --> 01:42:36,239
and that made the rounds in conspiracy

2511
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:38,280
land it was a big story for a while you

2512
01:42:43,609 --> 01:42:41,040
know and it was like one guy that told

2513
01:42:45,169 --> 01:42:43,619
that story and it just kept snowballing

2514
01:42:48,590 --> 01:42:45,179
and you know

2515
01:42:51,169 --> 01:42:48,600
yeah yeah I agree with you on the media

2516
01:42:53,090 --> 01:42:51,179
outlets and the other thing

2517
01:42:56,570 --> 01:42:53,100
that's definitely going to be an issue

2518
01:42:58,850 --> 01:42:56,580
is that the this is a godsend though to

2519
01:43:01,070 --> 01:42:58,860
the to the UFO believer and the UFO

2520
01:43:02,570 --> 01:43:01,080
Circle jerkers because don't you think

2521
01:43:04,850 --> 01:43:02,580
they took a lot of hits right before

2522
01:43:07,250 --> 01:43:04,860
this like there was a lot of hits you

2523
01:43:09,830 --> 01:43:07,260
know the Trinity UFO crash case is

2524
01:43:12,050 --> 01:43:09,840
completely fake and it destroyed Jacque

2525
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:12,060
Valley's credibility if he hadn't he

2526
01:43:19,609 --> 01:43:15,360
left and oh yeah now we get the flare

2527
01:43:20,689 --> 01:43:19,619
stories from corbel uh just garbage I'm

2528
01:43:23,090 --> 01:43:20,699
glad you brought that one up because

2529
01:43:24,530 --> 01:43:23,100
when that one broke I was watching it on

2530
01:43:26,149 --> 01:43:24,540
Reddit and on Twitter and of course the

2531
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:26,159
usual suspects were on Twitter were were

2532
01:43:30,649 --> 01:43:28,560
just clinging to it clinging to it like

2533
01:43:32,209 --> 01:43:30,659
a Lifeboat but all over on other

2534
01:43:34,010 --> 01:43:32,219
platforms on Facebook and on Reddit

2535
01:43:35,450 --> 01:43:34,020
people were jumping ship and they were

2536
01:43:37,070 --> 01:43:35,460
saying this is it I've had enough this

2537
01:43:39,290 --> 01:43:37,080
is garbage this is [\h__\h] I'm sick of

2538
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,300
being lied to sick of being sold flares

2539
01:43:43,609 --> 01:43:41,520
until that they're aliens you know I'm

2540
01:43:47,030 --> 01:43:43,619
done with this and people were jumping

2541
01:43:49,790 --> 01:43:47,040
ship off of ufology because of it and so

2542
01:43:52,430 --> 01:43:49,800
yes in a way this was a godsend this was

2543
01:43:54,590 --> 01:43:52,440
a life preserver for the UFO grifters

2544
01:43:56,950 --> 01:43:54,600
because people were getting hip to them

2545
01:43:59,330 --> 01:43:56,960
left and right left and right in

2546
01:44:01,430 --> 01:43:59,340
platforms and in areas that had

2547
01:44:02,810 --> 01:44:01,440
generally before been pretty accepting

2548
01:44:04,129 --> 01:44:02,820
and friendly for them where they could

2549
01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:04,139
pretty much say whatever they wanted and

2550
01:44:08,750 --> 01:44:06,719
get away with it if this story explodes

2551
01:44:10,550 --> 01:44:08,760
it's going to be really bad because it's

2552
01:44:13,010 --> 01:44:10,560
going to confirm for a lot of people

2553
01:44:15,410 --> 01:44:13,020
that some of the more skeptical you know

2554
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:15,420
even killed people are correct in their

2555
01:44:21,470 --> 01:44:18,000
analysis you know we've got Green Street

2556
01:44:24,050 --> 01:44:21,480
put out quite a scathing uh little

2557
01:44:26,270 --> 01:44:24,060
article on just on Twitter about Lou

2558
01:44:29,149 --> 01:44:26,280
Elizondo being not who he said he was

2559
01:44:32,450 --> 01:44:29,159
and how you know this is all tied to

2560
01:44:34,010 --> 01:44:32,460
Elizondo in his opinion and and if that

2561
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:34,020
turns out to be true it's going to be

2562
01:44:40,609 --> 01:44:37,199
hard to continue to attack the skeptical

2563
01:44:42,290 --> 01:44:40,619
minded people you know who who mostly

2564
01:44:43,910 --> 01:44:42,300
you know like me and other people were

2565
01:44:46,189 --> 01:44:43,920
showing you the truth and we're urging

2566
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:46,199
caution you know before you believe this

2567
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:49,679
listen to this look at the history and

2568
01:44:53,870 --> 01:44:51,119
that's another thing I can't believe

2569
01:44:56,510 --> 01:44:53,880
that this guy's history like Ross

2570
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,520
coldthart's history of selling a hundred

2571
01:45:01,490 --> 01:44:59,280
percent provably fake stories and Leslie

2572
01:45:04,189 --> 01:45:01,500
Keane's history of one being kind of a

2573
01:45:07,370 --> 01:45:04,199
wackadoo that believes in spirit mediums

2574
01:45:10,850 --> 01:45:07,380
and ectoplasm and all that stuff and

2575
01:45:13,490 --> 01:45:10,860
also her terrible factually incorrect

2576
01:45:15,410 --> 01:45:13,500
New York Times article you know these

2577
01:45:16,850 --> 01:45:15,420
people have all sold provably fake

2578
01:45:19,790 --> 01:45:16,860
stories before

2579
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:19,800
I think that that's got to be you got to

2580
01:45:24,350 --> 01:45:22,260
take that into consideration like how do

2581
01:45:26,810 --> 01:45:24,360
you ignore their track record of selling

2582
01:45:29,990 --> 01:45:26,820
fake stories before and just all chips

2583
01:45:31,370 --> 01:45:30,000
in believe this you know yeah I I don't

2584
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:31,380
I don't know how critically thinking

2585
01:45:35,689 --> 01:45:34,320
people can look at what those all those

2586
01:45:38,330 --> 01:45:35,699
people who just mentioned have done in

2587
01:45:41,090 --> 01:45:38,340
in the recent past and uh been caught

2588
01:45:42,890 --> 01:45:41,100
red-handed doing and still take them uh

2589
01:45:45,410 --> 01:45:42,900
as serious journalists or as anyone

2590
01:45:46,970 --> 01:45:45,420
who's critical or credible you know um

2591
01:45:49,550 --> 01:45:46,980
especially when you've got Leslie Kane

2592
01:45:51,169 --> 01:45:49,560
saying you know no I there's no red

2593
01:45:55,129 --> 01:45:51,179
flags when the guy couldn't prove any of

2594
01:45:56,570 --> 01:45:55,139
his story no red flags at all no not at

2595
01:45:58,609 --> 01:45:56,580
all of course not because she's not a

2596
01:46:00,649 --> 01:45:58,619
journalist she's an activist she doesn't

2597
01:46:02,209 --> 01:46:00,659
care as long as somebody says something

2598
01:46:03,470 --> 01:46:02,219
that she thinks will further her agenda

2599
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:03,480
she's going to run with it she doesn't

2600
01:46:07,070 --> 01:46:05,280
give a [\h__\h] if it's true or not she's

2601
01:46:08,450 --> 01:46:07,080
not she's going to fact check him you

2602
01:46:09,950 --> 01:46:08,460
know she doesn't care as long as he's

2603
01:46:12,590 --> 01:46:09,960
got a medal on his chest or a letter

2604
01:46:14,330 --> 01:46:12,600
from a senator why would I care if it's

2605
01:46:16,970 --> 01:46:14,340
you know but you'll see what happens is

2606
01:46:18,410 --> 01:46:16,980
that the major news uh Publications are

2607
01:46:19,729 --> 01:46:18,420
not going to let that slide so much

2608
01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:19,739
they're gonna they're gonna be the ones

2609
01:46:22,850 --> 01:46:20,940
because they're the ones taking the hit

2610
01:46:25,250 --> 01:46:22,860
the New York Times took a hit when they

2611
01:46:26,689 --> 01:46:25,260
ran that article and had to come see

2612
01:46:29,090 --> 01:46:26,699
could that have something to do with the

2613
01:46:32,030 --> 01:46:29,100
fact that she has to distribute her

2614
01:46:33,709 --> 01:46:32,040
stories on the debrief now yeah and

2615
01:46:35,629 --> 01:46:33,719
maybe don't you think the debrief is

2616
01:46:37,490 --> 01:46:35,639
like the only one that would take it I

2617
01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:37,500
think so I'm gonna put your liberation

2618
01:46:40,850 --> 01:46:39,119
of times would have ran with it but oh

2619
01:46:42,970 --> 01:46:40,860
yeah but that's an even bigger garbage

2620
01:46:46,669 --> 01:46:42,980
pile uh yeah yeah

2621
01:46:48,050 --> 01:46:46,679
no yeah you know I'm a little I'm not

2622
01:46:50,450 --> 01:46:48,060
surprised at the debrief would run with

2623
01:46:52,070 --> 01:46:50,460
it and if you look it was very fortunate

2624
01:46:54,590 --> 01:46:52,080
for them you know like I said their

2625
01:46:55,850 --> 01:46:54,600
average uh interaction on their tweets

2626
01:46:57,470 --> 01:46:55,860
was somewhere around nine or ten

2627
01:46:58,910 --> 01:46:57,480
thousand Impressions per tweet before

2628
01:47:00,950 --> 01:46:58,920
that but the Tweet with this article

2629
01:47:02,450 --> 01:47:00,960
broke a million or clocked close to a

2630
01:47:04,070 --> 01:47:02,460
million in one day

2631
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,080
um so this was very good for their

2632
01:47:08,930 --> 01:47:06,480
business as a you know um does that mean

2633
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:08,940
it's true no I mean it doesn't and in

2634
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:10,320
fact I think they've even walked back

2635
01:47:13,550 --> 01:47:12,000
and and had to put a big thing out today

2636
01:47:14,870 --> 01:47:13,560
how they didn't vet anything up I

2637
01:47:16,669 --> 01:47:14,880
haven't read the the two different parts

2638
01:47:18,050 --> 01:47:16,679
it was an interview with MacMillan who

2639
01:47:19,790 --> 01:47:18,060
was one of the co-founders I think of

2640
01:47:21,169 --> 01:47:19,800
the debrief

2641
01:47:22,729 --> 01:47:21,179
um where he's talking about how they

2642
01:47:23,810 --> 01:47:22,739
didn't they didn't really vet the story

2643
01:47:26,090 --> 01:47:23,820
it wasn't their job they're just

2644
01:47:27,890 --> 01:47:26,100
publishing it I'm like well

2645
01:47:29,990 --> 01:47:27,900
what do you mean so if I come to them

2646
01:47:31,490 --> 01:47:30,000
with a story about me like 22 and back

2647
01:47:33,830 --> 01:47:31,500
you know and I've been to 500 different

2648
01:47:36,290 --> 01:47:33,840
alien planets and they're gonna run it

2649
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:36,300
like they apparently aren't journalists

2650
01:47:39,350 --> 01:47:37,679
either so

2651
01:47:41,030 --> 01:47:39,360
um people should be questioning that

2652
01:47:42,830 --> 01:47:41,040
should be questioning that why did it

2653
01:47:45,770 --> 01:47:42,840
have to end up on the debrief why did

2654
01:47:47,270 --> 01:47:45,780
all these other uh uh journalistic out

2655
01:47:48,229 --> 01:47:47,280
let's say hey we want to confirm this we

2656
01:47:49,970 --> 01:47:48,239
want a little bit of time to run with

2657
01:47:51,530 --> 01:47:49,980
this and to investigate this

2658
01:47:54,310 --> 01:47:51,540
and why was it so important that they

2659
01:47:56,330 --> 01:47:54,320
get it out you know yesterday

2660
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:56,340
we might have had something to do with

2661
01:48:01,129 --> 01:47:59,520
Greer's event I think Lou Elizondo holds

2662
01:48:03,050 --> 01:48:01,139
the garage really well and he wanted to

2663
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:03,060
crap all over his event

2664
01:48:07,070 --> 01:48:05,280
you know but again if what Dr Greer said

2665
01:48:08,810 --> 01:48:07,080
is true and he does have interviews with

2666
01:48:10,490 --> 01:48:08,820
Grouch then that would explain why they

2667
01:48:12,350 --> 01:48:10,500
wanted to get out and beat him to the to

2668
01:48:14,090 --> 01:48:12,360
the punch you know because they want to

2669
01:48:15,470 --> 01:48:14,100
be like oh no our story's accurate and

2670
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:15,480
Dr Greer is going to use it out of

2671
01:48:18,470 --> 01:48:16,800
context or whatever

2672
01:48:19,970 --> 01:48:18,480
um I have no idea if that's true if he's

2673
01:48:21,950 --> 01:48:19,980
actually got filmed recordings with them

2674
01:48:24,129 --> 01:48:21,960
or or if he's just saying that so they

2675
01:48:27,410 --> 01:48:24,139
can climb onto the latest news cycle

2676
01:48:29,450 --> 01:48:27,420
on to it yeah oh my my disclosure of

2677
01:48:32,090 --> 01:48:29,460
that we've got four whistleblowers they

2678
01:48:34,430 --> 01:48:32,100
only got one you know it's like childish

2679
01:48:37,129 --> 01:48:34,440
at some point with this stuff it's

2680
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:37,139
absolutely childish with some at some

2681
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,360
point like they say Jerry Maguire show

2682
01:48:43,729 --> 01:48:41,280
me the money show me the receipts show

2683
01:48:45,709 --> 01:48:43,739
me the evidence I don't you know and you

2684
01:48:47,510 --> 01:48:45,719
know like like we talked about Snowden

2685
01:48:49,490 --> 01:48:47,520
earlier we talked about reality winner

2686
01:48:51,470 --> 01:48:49,500
these people brought evidence and they

2687
01:48:55,250 --> 01:48:51,480
didn't have to tell us what it meant the

2688
01:48:57,229 --> 01:48:55,260
evidence spoke for itself okay and that

2689
01:48:58,970 --> 01:48:57,239
is a whistleblower that is a

2690
01:49:00,530 --> 01:48:58,980
whistleblower and yes it sucks that

2691
01:49:02,030 --> 01:49:00,540
those whistleblowers paid heavily for

2692
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:02,040
what they did you know one of them went

2693
01:49:04,729 --> 01:49:03,360
to prison and the other's been kept out

2694
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:04,739
of his country and can't never come back

2695
01:49:09,050 --> 01:49:07,199
yeah yeah I agree with you somebody just

2696
01:49:11,629 --> 01:49:09,060
telling stories that somebody else told

2697
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:11,639
them that that's not a whistleblower to

2698
01:49:16,609 --> 01:49:14,639
me you gotta you know and I get I'm

2699
01:49:19,010 --> 01:49:16,619
trying to be at least Fair the guy

2700
01:49:20,990 --> 01:49:19,020
claims he had he has evidence he showed

2701
01:49:23,090 --> 01:49:21,000
it to members of Congress but we can't

2702
01:49:24,050 --> 01:49:23,100
see it it just seems too convenient to

2703
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:24,060
me

2704
01:49:26,990 --> 01:49:25,920
I don't think he does have evidence I

2705
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:27,000
don't think he's ever even claimed to

2706
01:49:29,810 --> 01:49:28,560
thank you art and paranormal and thanks

2707
01:49:32,270 --> 01:49:29,820
for being a member and a chat room

2708
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:32,280
moderator we appreciate you thank you

2709
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,800
very much art and paranormal yeah he's

2710
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,480
taken evidence if he's take if he's

2711
01:49:40,850 --> 01:49:38,400
using his clearance to take evidence

2712
01:49:42,530 --> 01:49:40,860
away and get evidence that's exactly

2713
01:49:44,570 --> 01:49:42,540
what reality winner did and she went to

2714
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:44,580
prison for five years you know so I'm

2715
01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:46,560
not sure how I think he's saying that

2716
01:49:52,010 --> 01:49:49,199
people gave him those documents

2717
01:49:53,810 --> 01:49:52,020
so maybe you know yeah and that's

2718
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:53,820
another issue some of these people were

2719
01:49:58,070 --> 01:49:56,400
arguing with me because I said if he was

2720
01:50:00,050 --> 01:49:58,080
releasing any classified information the

2721
01:50:02,270 --> 01:50:00,060
feds would be at his door and people are

2722
01:50:04,370 --> 01:50:02,280
arguing with me saying he couldn't be

2723
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:04,380
lying because if he was lying under oath

2724
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:06,480
they would prosecute him but don't you

2725
01:50:11,209 --> 01:50:08,639
think Manny if he's just repeating what

2726
01:50:13,070 --> 01:50:11,219
do they mean under oath like like he

2727
01:50:14,930 --> 01:50:13,080
made up a story to tell Congress or to

2728
01:50:18,290 --> 01:50:14,940
Arrow when he swore under oath that he

2729
01:50:21,050 --> 01:50:18,300
was yes or to the IG but the point is

2730
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,060
that perjury requires intent if he's

2731
01:50:24,410 --> 01:50:23,040
just repeating stories that people told

2732
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:24,420
him I don't think that they would

2733
01:50:29,570 --> 01:50:26,880
prosecute him if he was framing them as

2734
01:50:31,010 --> 01:50:29,580
stories that were were told yeah these

2735
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:31,020
people told me this is what they were

2736
01:50:35,870 --> 01:50:33,300
involved in and they you know saw the

2737
01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:35,880
alien spaceships or whatever he's not

2738
01:50:40,669 --> 01:50:37,920
lying he's repeating what somebody told

2739
01:50:43,490 --> 01:50:40,679
him there has to be intend now to to

2740
01:50:46,010 --> 01:50:43,500
deceive now would Arrow find his stories

2741
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:46,020
and his claims to lack credibility most

2742
01:50:50,510 --> 01:50:47,520
likely because it's their second hand

2743
01:50:51,770 --> 01:50:50,520
stories lacking any evidence so if you

2744
01:50:52,669 --> 01:50:51,780
had evidence he should have supplied it

2745
01:50:54,410 --> 01:50:52,679
to Arrow which is where the

2746
01:50:55,669 --> 01:50:54,420
Whistleblower protections gave him they

2747
01:50:57,050 --> 01:50:55,679
didn't give him a protection to go to

2748
01:50:59,570 --> 01:50:57,060
cross cool fire they didn't give a

2749
01:51:01,129 --> 01:50:59,580
protection to go to the Canadian um you

2750
01:51:03,229 --> 01:51:01,139
know Parliament they did not give him

2751
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,239
permission to go around all those people

2752
01:51:07,010 --> 01:51:05,280
and go to Marco Rubio or anybody else

2753
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:07,020
they did not give him that they gave him

2754
01:51:10,010 --> 01:51:08,400
the permission to talk in the right

2755
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:10,020
setting to arrow and to provide the

2756
01:51:13,370 --> 01:51:12,000
evidence now clearly he failed to do

2757
01:51:15,169 --> 01:51:13,380
that because Kirkpatrick came out and

2758
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:15,179
said there's zero credible evidence of

2759
01:51:18,410 --> 01:51:16,320
any of these programs or these

2760
01:51:20,570 --> 01:51:18,420
retrievals or crashes or any of it none

2761
01:51:21,830 --> 01:51:20,580
there's none so he obviously doesn't

2762
01:51:24,590 --> 01:51:21,840
have that evidence or he would have

2763
01:51:26,090 --> 01:51:24,600
given it to Arrow or if he did why

2764
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,100
didn't he just leak it why didn't he or

2765
01:51:29,570 --> 01:51:28,320
I just don't get it I mean he doesn't he

2766
01:51:31,490 --> 01:51:29,580
said that he couldn't have it it

2767
01:51:33,169 --> 01:51:31,500
couldn't be somebody could never give it

2768
01:51:34,729 --> 01:51:33,179
to him imagine what he's saying there

2769
01:51:36,290 --> 01:51:34,739
you know somebody's working on a top

2770
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:36,300
secret UFO program and they're going to

2771
01:51:40,430 --> 01:51:38,639
leak him a document and he's got it and

2772
01:51:42,410 --> 01:51:40,440
you gotta trust he has it but he can't

2773
01:51:44,090 --> 01:51:42,420
show it to anybody but Congress like

2774
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:44,100
that just doesn't make any sense it does

2775
01:51:47,629 --> 01:51:45,840
why wouldn't they go to Congress why

2776
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,639
wouldn't they go to Arrow why wouldn't

2777
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:49,920
and if so why wouldn't when they took

2778
01:51:53,090 --> 01:51:51,360
that to Arrow why wouldn't Arrow

2779
01:51:55,550 --> 01:51:53,100
investigate and find that program

2780
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,560
I'm sure they tried I'm sure they tried

2781
01:51:59,590 --> 01:51:57,119
if they had credible evidence that

2782
01:52:01,550 --> 01:51:59,600
showed that there was a uh UFO program

2783
01:52:05,090 --> 01:52:01,560
I'm sure that he would have tried to

2784
01:52:06,830 --> 01:52:05,100
find it but he didn't so that to me

2785
01:52:08,990 --> 01:52:06,840
tells me that it doesn't exist you know

2786
01:52:11,570 --> 01:52:09,000
do you think that we're ever going to

2787
01:52:13,310 --> 01:52:11,580
get the names or testimony of any of

2788
01:52:15,290 --> 01:52:13,320
these people who told him these stories

2789
01:52:16,970 --> 01:52:15,300
so we could get the first-hand accounts

2790
01:52:18,950 --> 01:52:16,980
or do you think they're going to Kick

2791
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:18,960
the Can on this and we're never going to

2792
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,639
get any names

2793
01:52:24,770 --> 01:52:22,080
and we're never going to get any

2794
01:52:27,050 --> 01:52:24,780
evidence I I would I would love to hear

2795
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:27,060
who told him what he was told yeah I

2796
01:52:35,109 --> 01:52:28,560
have a sneaky suspicion it was probably

2797
01:52:41,390 --> 01:52:39,290
maybe Gary Nolan maybe lewisando maybe

2798
01:52:42,830 --> 01:52:41,400
all these people put him up to it and

2799
01:52:44,930 --> 01:52:42,840
shoved him out there and he's just like

2800
01:52:47,149 --> 01:52:44,940
a you know like a doe in headlights he's

2801
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:47,159
like I don't know okay I'll do it

2802
01:52:50,510 --> 01:52:48,719
um I don't know

2803
01:52:51,649 --> 01:52:50,520
um maybe they maybe they have it you

2804
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:51,659
know maybe they're the ones who put them

2805
01:52:55,729 --> 01:52:53,280
up to it but uh

2806
01:52:58,370 --> 01:52:55,739
maybe not I mean I don't know

2807
01:53:00,609 --> 01:52:58,380
um yeah because actually they they don't

2808
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:00,619
need it they don't need Title 50.

2809
01:53:06,590 --> 01:53:03,679
big surprise dark protocol says

2810
01:53:08,330 --> 01:53:06,600
Alejandro Rojas appeared on podcast UFO

2811
01:53:11,390 --> 01:53:08,340
today and was all over this story cool

2812
01:53:14,149 --> 01:53:11,400
yeah all the usual did you know Manny

2813
01:53:17,209 --> 01:53:14,159
that at contact in the desert

2814
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:17,219
um Richard Dolan and uh and somebody

2815
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:20,639
else they had like it she had they had

2816
01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:23,520
to do an emergency like talk about the

2817
01:53:28,010 --> 01:53:25,920
new whistleblower because they did they

2818
01:53:29,870 --> 01:53:28,020
like canceled the vents to just talk

2819
01:53:31,310 --> 01:53:29,880
about this story because it's this is

2820
01:53:32,810 --> 01:53:31,320
the biggest story in humans because I

2821
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,820
really want to know what Lou elizondo's

2822
01:53:36,169 --> 01:53:34,560
lawyer thinks about Lou elizondo's

2823
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:36,179
friend a whistleblower coming out no

2824
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,119
thanks man yeah it was funny to see it

2825
01:53:44,030 --> 01:53:41,520
was funny to see Green Street he tweeted

2826
01:53:46,189 --> 01:53:44,040
something really funny like I used to

2827
01:53:48,590 --> 01:53:46,199
think all this UFO stuff was bullcrap

2828
01:53:51,010 --> 01:53:48,600
but since Lou Alexander's friends said

2829
01:53:53,990 --> 01:53:51,020
that said the aliens are real

2830
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:54,000
I believe it you know no I no it's true

2831
01:53:57,890 --> 01:53:56,159
yeah because Lou's buddy told me it was

2832
01:53:58,850 --> 01:53:57,900
real you know like yeah I'm not I'm not

2833
01:54:01,129 --> 01:53:58,860
into that

2834
01:54:02,930 --> 01:54:01,139
um I don't really care what Sheehan or

2835
01:54:03,830 --> 01:54:02,940
or Dolan has to say to be honest with

2836
01:54:05,270 --> 01:54:03,840
you

2837
01:54:08,570 --> 01:54:05,280
um yeah

2838
01:54:10,850 --> 01:54:08,580
yeah and and a final question for you

2839
01:54:13,550 --> 01:54:10,860
before we wrap things up

2840
01:54:15,890 --> 01:54:13,560
um there have been hype about new

2841
01:54:17,330 --> 01:54:15,900
whistleblowers are coming do you think

2842
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:17,340
that this is the first and we're going

2843
01:54:21,530 --> 01:54:18,960
to get more and are they going to be

2844
01:54:23,750 --> 01:54:21,540
like him with no evidence or are we

2845
01:54:26,810 --> 01:54:23,760
going to get some actual real

2846
01:54:29,209 --> 01:54:26,820
information anytime soon well honestly

2847
01:54:31,490 --> 01:54:29,219
he's not the first actually Bob Salas

2848
01:54:33,890 --> 01:54:31,500
came out with his recorded uh testimony

2849
01:54:36,470 --> 01:54:33,900
that he had given to uh Arrow a couple

2850
01:54:38,209 --> 01:54:36,480
weeks ago so he technically yeah so

2851
01:54:39,830 --> 01:54:38,219
Robert Silas would have been the first

2852
01:54:41,689 --> 01:54:39,840
whistleblower

2853
01:54:43,250 --> 01:54:41,699
um I think this is probably it I think

2854
01:54:45,530 --> 01:54:43,260
they put their all in all their chips in

2855
01:54:47,870 --> 01:54:45,540
on this guy and that's probably why he

2856
01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:47,880
got such the heavy uh reaction that he

2857
01:54:51,229 --> 01:54:50,159
did in the media and I really I want to

2858
01:54:52,609 --> 01:54:51,239
know who's spending all the money to

2859
01:54:54,290 --> 01:54:52,619
promote this guy I want to know where

2860
01:54:56,689 --> 01:54:54,300
that funding's coming from and who's

2861
01:54:58,370 --> 01:54:56,699
behind it and why they're behind it

2862
01:55:00,770 --> 01:54:58,380
um it's not uh

2863
01:55:02,689 --> 01:55:00,780
it's not really

2864
01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,699
oh really what's that see him can you

2865
01:55:05,270 --> 01:55:04,080
bring that up that message that Steve

2866
01:55:08,270 --> 01:55:05,280
long just said

2867
01:55:11,570 --> 01:55:08,280
she had an Elizondo yeah

2868
01:55:13,970 --> 01:55:11,580
Sheehan and Lou formed a 501c with the

2869
01:55:16,490 --> 01:55:13,980
whistleblowers grucha meal get me that

2870
01:55:18,370 --> 01:55:16,500
document Steve long message yeah I'm

2871
01:55:22,370 --> 01:55:18,380
really curious to know more about that

2872
01:55:24,250 --> 01:55:22,380
so A 501 3C is a non-profit tax-exempt

2873
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:24,260
organization for people who don't know

2874
01:55:29,209 --> 01:55:27,119
in this case it's probably a foundation

2875
01:55:31,609 --> 01:55:29,219
I would guess is probably what that is

2876
01:55:32,930 --> 01:55:31,619
and I would be really curious to find

2877
01:55:35,689 --> 01:55:32,940
some more information about that because

2878
01:55:37,490 --> 01:55:35,699
I'd like to see who's donating money to

2879
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:37,500
that foundation and where the funding is

2880
01:55:41,330 --> 01:55:38,880
coming from and where it's going yeah

2881
01:55:44,629 --> 01:55:41,340
one of the problems one of the problems

2882
01:55:46,189 --> 01:55:44,639
for the for for people if if you form a

2883
01:55:48,410 --> 01:55:46,199
charity you have to file something

2884
01:55:51,109 --> 01:55:48,420
called a 990. that's how we were able to

2885
01:55:52,850 --> 01:55:51,119
show everybody exactly how much money uh

2886
01:55:55,010 --> 01:55:52,860
David Wilcock was collecting for his

2887
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:55,020
charity and what he spent it on and that

2888
01:55:58,609 --> 01:55:56,639
was a great story Manny because do you

2889
01:56:02,330 --> 01:55:58,619
know what he spent all the money on

2890
01:56:04,970 --> 01:56:02,340
Home Improvements himself all the money

2891
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:04,980
on himself he did no challenge you mean

2892
01:56:08,750 --> 01:56:07,199
like spa days and getting a haircut yeah

2893
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:08,760
yeah they spent like five thousand

2894
01:56:12,169 --> 01:56:10,800
dollars on meals and entertainment and

2895
01:56:15,169 --> 01:56:12,179
they spent all kinds of money on

2896
01:56:17,950 --> 01:56:15,179
software cameras equipment and he's

2897
01:56:20,510 --> 01:56:17,960
doing for-profit monetized

2898
01:56:22,370 --> 01:56:20,520
broadcasts with the with the equipment

2899
01:56:24,169 --> 01:56:22,380
allegedly that he purchased with

2900
01:56:26,689 --> 01:56:24,179
charitable donations

2901
01:56:28,729 --> 01:56:26,699
wow so that's a real problem for him and

2902
01:56:31,850 --> 01:56:28,739
he only ended up giving he collected

2903
01:56:33,530 --> 01:56:31,860
something like 175 000 in two years and

2904
01:56:35,930 --> 01:56:33,540
he only ended up giving a few thousand

2905
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:35,940
dollars to some other charity that was

2906
01:56:40,729 --> 01:56:38,880
the total of of his charitable work he

2907
01:56:43,010 --> 01:56:40,739
spent all the rest of the money him and

2908
01:56:46,990 --> 01:56:43,020
uh him and his wife on like meals and

2909
01:56:50,450 --> 01:56:47,000
entertainment you know and uh equipment

2910
01:56:54,290 --> 01:56:50,460
office supplies just ridiculous things

2911
01:56:56,750 --> 01:56:54,300
like I don't know how you spend oh 175

2912
01:56:58,850 --> 01:56:56,760
000 on yourself when it's supposed to be

2913
01:57:01,729 --> 01:56:58,860
for charity and you think that's okay

2914
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:01,739
like we were saying there's no morals if

2915
01:57:06,890 --> 01:57:04,800
he really did form a 501c3 they're going

2916
01:57:09,890 --> 01:57:06,900
to have to report every dime that they

2917
01:57:12,050 --> 01:57:09,900
collect in charitable donations and

2918
01:57:14,930 --> 01:57:12,060
every dime that they spend and what they

2919
01:57:17,450 --> 01:57:14,940
spend it on so that might be I think

2920
01:57:19,189 --> 01:57:17,460
it's a mistake for any UFO person or

2921
01:57:21,729 --> 01:57:19,199
person in conspiracy land to start a

2922
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:21,739
charity because

2923
01:57:26,209 --> 01:57:24,480
we can private for for-profit company

2924
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:26,219
like Enigma Labs did they should do

2925
01:57:29,689 --> 01:57:27,840
something like that where they get a

2926
01:57:31,250 --> 01:57:29,699
little privacy and they can spend money

2927
01:57:33,770 --> 01:57:31,260
the way that they want without having to

2928
01:57:35,450 --> 01:57:33,780
justify it to um either shareholders or

2929
01:57:37,490 --> 01:57:35,460
the public because when you go public

2930
01:57:38,930 --> 01:57:37,500
like ttsa did will you open yourself up

2931
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:38,940
to have a note to share your finances

2932
01:57:44,089 --> 01:57:41,520
with the uh public you know if they

2933
01:57:46,129 --> 01:57:44,099
truly are the same as what the 501 3cs

2934
01:57:48,050 --> 01:57:46,139
as well if they truly did start a

2935
01:57:51,229 --> 01:57:48,060
charity with this whistleblower David

2936
01:57:53,330 --> 01:57:51,239
grush that proves a direct link between

2937
01:57:56,030 --> 01:57:53,340
Lou Elizondo and a financial connection

2938
01:57:57,950 --> 01:57:56,040
between absolutely zondo and him and

2939
01:58:01,310 --> 01:57:57,960
that's I think that's extremely

2940
01:58:03,530 --> 01:58:01,320
problematic for this guy's credibility

2941
01:58:05,330 --> 01:58:03,540
yeah it all depends on what it is and

2942
01:58:06,589 --> 01:58:05,340
why it's set up um either way it doesn't

2943
01:58:09,290 --> 01:58:06,599
look good that they're all connected

2944
01:58:11,810 --> 01:58:09,300
financially through a tax-exempt you

2945
01:58:14,330 --> 01:58:11,820
know Foundation or uh charity or

2946
01:58:16,850 --> 01:58:14,340
non-profit organization that's not good

2947
01:58:18,109 --> 01:58:16,860
um so I'd really uh gosh I'd love if

2948
01:58:20,629 --> 01:58:18,119
anybody has any information on that

2949
01:58:22,310 --> 01:58:20,639
email it to me just give me a name and a

2950
01:58:25,010 --> 01:58:22,320
state and I will go to town like a dog

2951
01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:25,020
with a bone I will just dig a dick and

2952
01:58:29,990 --> 01:58:27,840
take it until I get it but um yeah I

2953
01:58:31,550 --> 01:58:30,000
mean if it's a new charity all we're

2954
01:58:34,790 --> 01:58:31,560
going to be able to get is the initial

2955
01:58:36,649 --> 01:58:34,800
formation uh documents but it'll show

2956
01:58:37,970 --> 01:58:36,659
you every principle that's involved

2957
01:58:40,250 --> 01:58:37,980
every person

2958
01:58:43,129 --> 01:58:40,260
that's involved in the charity and and

2959
01:58:45,290 --> 01:58:43,139
some more information and and again just

2960
01:58:47,089 --> 01:58:45,300
to be clear we haven't confirmed that

2961
01:58:48,649 --> 01:58:47,099
Lou Elizondo started a charity with this

2962
01:58:50,930 --> 01:58:48,659
whistleblower someone in the live chat

2963
01:58:52,370 --> 01:58:50,940
Steve long has said that we're going to

2964
01:58:54,109 --> 01:58:52,380
try to confirm that and if that's the

2965
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:54,119
case we'll we'll report it to you we'll

2966
01:58:57,470 --> 01:58:56,400
we'll bring you the story on that you

2967
01:58:59,450 --> 01:58:57,480
know

2968
01:59:01,729 --> 01:58:59,460
yeah most Charities give very little to

2969
01:59:03,229 --> 01:59:01,739
the cause yeah absolutely well I think

2970
01:59:04,490 --> 01:59:03,239
we're going to wrap things up Manny I

2971
01:59:07,010 --> 01:59:04,500
want to thank you for coming on at the

2972
01:59:10,010 --> 01:59:07,020
last minute I I'll uh add your name to

2973
01:59:12,050 --> 01:59:10,020
the title and stuff so I'm sorry this

2974
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:12,060
was kind of last minute uh Manny offered

2975
01:59:16,729 --> 01:59:15,360
to jump on I I but that's okay because I

2976
01:59:18,169 --> 01:59:16,739
had another part to tonight's

2977
01:59:21,109 --> 01:59:18,179
presentation I could say for something

2978
01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:21,119
else and that is just on the history of

2979
01:59:27,470 --> 01:59:24,719
all of the baloney and the fakery and

2980
01:59:29,629 --> 01:59:27,480
the fraudery involved with UFO crash

2981
01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:29,639
retrieval stories I've got a whole piece

2982
01:59:33,649 --> 01:59:31,199
on that and presentation on that we'll

2983
01:59:35,330 --> 01:59:33,659
do it another night maybe tomorrow yeah

2984
01:59:37,010 --> 01:59:35,340
you know and on the whole UFO Griff

2985
01:59:38,870 --> 01:59:37,020
thing you know that um I haven't been

2986
01:59:40,070 --> 01:59:38,880
real active on YouTube in the last

2987
01:59:41,450 --> 01:59:40,080
probably a year and a half I've been

2988
01:59:43,370 --> 01:59:41,460
doing and you know Stephen I've been

2989
01:59:46,430 --> 01:59:43,380
working with Bob kiviat on a couple of

2990
01:59:47,709 --> 01:59:46,440
years yeah producer of alien autopsy yes

2991
01:59:50,270 --> 01:59:47,719
yeah

2992
01:59:53,450 --> 01:59:50,280
you took my job with him you know you

2993
01:59:55,609 --> 01:59:53,460
prick I said that before but yeah it's

2994
01:59:58,129 --> 01:59:55,619
been it's been great nobody told me that

2995
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:58,139
Bob kibiot needed like a video guy and a

2996
02:00:03,890 --> 02:00:01,199
co-producer and and so Manny swooped in

2997
02:00:07,250 --> 02:00:03,900
and he took my job with Bob kibiat to

2998
02:00:09,410 --> 02:00:07,260
make films with Bob kitiat who is half

2999
02:00:12,290 --> 02:00:09,420
my childhood man Unsolved Mysteries

3000
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:12,300
alien autopsy Factor it was a factor

3001
02:00:16,850 --> 02:00:14,639
fate or fact or fiction it was fact or

3002
02:00:19,250 --> 02:00:16,860
fiction fiction with Jonathan Frakes and

3003
02:00:20,510 --> 02:00:19,260
that guy's a big part of my childhood I

3004
02:00:22,129 --> 02:00:20,520
would have loved to have that job but

3005
02:00:23,089 --> 02:00:22,139
Manny took it from me because he's a

3006
02:00:24,830 --> 02:00:23,099
prick

3007
02:00:26,149 --> 02:00:24,840
that's just the way it works out it was

3008
02:00:31,669 --> 02:00:26,159
kind of an interesting story we'll talk

3009
02:00:37,189 --> 02:00:34,609
buddy I know everybody's screw me out of

3010
02:00:39,530 --> 02:00:37,199
job jobs here no I'm happy for both of

3011
02:00:41,689 --> 02:00:39,540
you bigger and better thanks good for

3012
02:00:44,169 --> 02:00:41,699
you guys I'm I'm hoping that I get a

3013
02:00:47,030 --> 02:00:44,179
break someday until then I'll be here

3014
02:00:49,129 --> 02:00:47,040
swinging away slugging away here Manny

3015
02:00:50,930 --> 02:00:49,139
uh that's good I'm happy to be here

3016
02:00:52,129 --> 02:00:50,940
actually yeah I just want to let

3017
02:00:53,209 --> 02:00:52,139
everybody know what I'm doing you know

3018
02:00:54,709 --> 02:00:53,219
I'm still here and I'm still working

3019
02:00:56,030 --> 02:00:54,719
behind the scenes I just haven't been

3020
02:00:57,470 --> 02:00:56,040
active on YouTube

3021
02:00:58,790 --> 02:00:57,480
um you know people can follow me on

3022
02:01:00,050 --> 02:00:58,800
Twitter you know I know you do Stephen

3023
02:01:02,410 --> 02:01:00,060
and you see that I'm out on their

3024
02:01:05,990 --> 02:01:02,420
everyday talking about this stuff

3025
02:01:08,510 --> 02:01:06,000
balls every day I you know it's so funny

3026
02:01:10,370 --> 02:01:08,520
I'm glad Manny's there because Manny is

3027
02:01:13,550 --> 02:01:10,380
a tremendous Time Saver in my life

3028
02:01:16,070 --> 02:01:13,560
because I go and somebody says something

3029
02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:16,080
stupid and ridiculous and I'm going I'm

3030
02:01:20,810 --> 02:01:18,719
going to reply to this dummy and then I

3031
02:01:22,970 --> 02:01:20,820
look at the Tweet thread and Manny

3032
02:01:25,430 --> 02:01:22,980
already told them exactly or nearly

3033
02:01:27,530 --> 02:01:25,440
exactly what I was like listen you idiot

3034
02:01:29,450 --> 02:01:27,540
you know like I don't have to do it

3035
02:01:32,089 --> 02:01:29,460
because Manny's out there busting balls

3036
02:01:33,350 --> 02:01:32,099
too it's a great thing yeah yeah trying

3037
02:01:35,810 --> 02:01:33,360
to keep people honest that's all and

3038
02:01:37,010 --> 02:01:35,820
it's a full-time job but uh yeah so one

3039
02:01:38,750 --> 02:01:37,020
of the projects we're working on is

3040
02:01:41,089 --> 02:01:38,760
obviously the UFOs and politics and all

3041
02:01:42,470 --> 02:01:41,099
the scams and grips and stuff um so yeah

3042
02:01:44,450 --> 02:01:42,480
people should keep their eyes open for

3043
02:01:46,729 --> 02:01:44,460
that and if you've got any tips or

3044
02:01:48,530 --> 02:01:46,739
whatever send them in email me you know

3045
02:01:50,030 --> 02:01:48,540
uh don't be afraid to reach out I'm

3046
02:01:51,530 --> 02:01:50,040
still here and I'm open to talk to just

3047
02:01:53,169 --> 02:01:51,540
about anybody as long as they're civil

3048
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:53,179
you know

3049
02:01:57,470 --> 02:01:55,920
good to hear all right well thank you

3050
02:01:58,850 --> 02:01:57,480
Manny we're gonna wrap things up you

3051
02:02:00,350 --> 02:01:58,860
have a great evening and don't be a

3052
02:02:02,149 --> 02:02:00,360
stranger come back especially when you

3053
02:02:03,890 --> 02:02:02,159
finish a film and a film comes out I

3054
02:02:06,109 --> 02:02:03,900
want both you and Bob here

3055
02:02:07,310 --> 02:02:06,119
oh for for sure I'm sure I know that Bob

3056
02:02:09,050 --> 02:02:07,320
would love to come back on your show he

3057
02:02:11,030 --> 02:02:09,060
enjoyed uh hanging out with you that

3058
02:02:11,750 --> 02:02:11,040
well he's an awesome guy tell him I said

3059
02:02:13,850 --> 02:02:11,760
hello

3060
02:02:15,410 --> 02:02:13,860
I will I will and uh thanks everybody

3061
02:02:18,410 --> 02:02:15,420
thanks for having me on Stephen all

3062
02:02:22,010 --> 02:02:18,420
right thank you Manny from area 503 now

3063
02:02:24,649 --> 02:02:22,020
a co-producer uh with uh Bob kiviat's

3064
02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:24,659
new film company uh happy for him I joke

3065
02:02:29,209 --> 02:02:26,639
about him getting my job I would love to

3066
02:02:31,550 --> 02:02:29,219
have that job but he beat me to it uh

3067
02:02:33,290 --> 02:02:31,560
the better man won it's okay I'm happy

3068
02:02:35,270 --> 02:02:33,300
for Manny

3069
02:02:37,070 --> 02:02:35,280
um they've got multiple film projects

3070
02:02:38,629 --> 02:02:37,080
which they will be releasing soon and

3071
02:02:40,430 --> 02:02:38,639
when they start releasing these film

3072
02:02:42,950 --> 02:02:40,440
projects I'm gonna have them both on

3073
02:02:45,169 --> 02:02:42,960
here to talk about the films uh I know

3074
02:02:46,970 --> 02:02:45,179
they have one on UFOs and scams and

3075
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:46,980
they've got uh another one on the

3076
02:02:50,930 --> 02:02:48,960
Mandela effect and a few other projects

3077
02:02:53,570 --> 02:02:50,940
that I'm aware of

3078
02:02:56,689 --> 02:02:53,580
um and that's great stuff so

3079
02:02:59,390 --> 02:02:56,699
boy we uh I have done my due diligence

3080
02:03:02,390 --> 02:02:59,400
today for those unaware I spend all day

3081
02:03:04,669 --> 02:03:02,400
today on the phone and in emails trying

3082
02:03:06,890 --> 02:03:04,679
to get the story exactly right it's

3083
02:03:09,229 --> 02:03:06,900
important especially when nobody else

3084
02:03:11,209 --> 02:03:09,239
has the story you know you can't copy

3085
02:03:13,129 --> 02:03:11,219
and paste you have to get the facts the

3086
02:03:14,870 --> 02:03:13,139
dates the times the names everything has

3087
02:03:18,950 --> 02:03:14,880
to be correct

3088
02:03:21,070 --> 02:03:18,960
um so I did my due diligence today uh we

3089
02:03:25,070 --> 02:03:21,080
want to thank uh

3090
02:03:27,290 --> 02:03:25,080
each and every one of you uh for joining

3091
02:03:29,810 --> 02:03:27,300
us we want to thank Our Kind and

3092
02:03:32,990 --> 02:03:29,820
Generous benefactors you patreon

3093
02:03:36,350 --> 02:03:33,000
supporters you PayPal pledgers you super

3094
02:03:38,990 --> 02:03:36,360
chatter super thanks people uh YouTube

3095
02:03:41,629 --> 02:03:39,000
channel members and of course our PayPal

3096
02:03:44,209 --> 02:03:41,639
pledgers we're a viewer supported show

3097
02:03:46,550 --> 02:03:44,219
and I try not to get bitter friends but

3098
02:03:49,070 --> 02:03:46,560
when I see lazy slobs that are

3099
02:03:50,750 --> 02:03:49,080
contributing nothing new but they're

3100
02:03:53,209 --> 02:03:50,760
right there with their hands out right

3101
02:03:55,609 --> 02:03:53,219
it kind of bothers me

3102
02:03:58,550 --> 02:03:55,619
um all day yesterday and all day today I

3103
02:04:01,070 --> 02:03:58,560
spent trying to uh make sure that we had

3104
02:04:03,410 --> 02:04:01,080
new and and interesting information to

3105
02:04:07,250 --> 02:04:03,420
share with you that takes time energy

3106
02:04:09,350 --> 02:04:07,260
passion and dedication and it takes uh

3107
02:04:11,390 --> 02:04:09,360
some support and we're lucky to have the

3108
02:04:11,990 --> 02:04:11,400
support of all of you

3109
02:04:14,089 --> 02:04:12,000
um

3110
02:04:17,330 --> 02:04:14,099
and we also want to be sure that we

3111
02:04:20,689 --> 02:04:17,340
thank our PayPal Pledger uh Daniel for

3112
02:04:22,430 --> 02:04:20,699
kind of generous 10 PayPal pledge uh we

3113
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,440
want to thank Maria for kind and

3114
02:04:26,930 --> 02:04:24,480
generous fifty dollar PayPal pledge

3115
02:04:30,229 --> 02:04:26,940
Daniel is sending that into some

3116
02:04:32,270 --> 02:04:30,239
birthday cash for the uh cash clam thank

3117
02:04:35,570 --> 02:04:32,280
you very much he'll appreciate that I'll

3118
02:04:37,609 --> 02:04:35,580
make sure he gets it and uh Maria just

3119
02:04:40,010 --> 02:04:37,619
says great work on The Whistleblower

3120
02:04:41,810 --> 02:04:40,020
story I'm glad you're here and we're

3121
02:04:46,669 --> 02:04:41,820
glad you're here Maria thank you for the

3122
02:04:49,729 --> 02:04:46,679
Kylie Jenner's 50 PayPal pledge so we

3123
02:04:51,589 --> 02:04:49,739
have done our due diligence for today uh

3124
02:04:54,709 --> 02:04:51,599
I

3125
02:04:57,770 --> 02:04:54,719
really hope that we're kind of done with

3126
02:04:59,750 --> 02:04:57,780
this story for for now to be quite

3127
02:05:02,750 --> 02:04:59,760
honest with you I'm kind of I've kind of

3128
02:05:04,930 --> 02:05:02,760
decided that until evidence actually

3129
02:05:08,510 --> 02:05:04,940
surfaces I'm kind of sick of this story

3130
02:05:11,510 --> 02:05:08,520
although uh thankfully after today I'm

3131
02:05:14,270 --> 02:05:11,520
aware of new information about this man

3132
02:05:16,910 --> 02:05:14,280
traveling to Canada speaking to members

3133
02:05:19,729 --> 02:05:16,920
of the Canadian Parliament and now

3134
02:05:22,250 --> 02:05:19,739
everyone is aware of that

3135
02:05:24,410 --> 02:05:22,260
um and I also would just like to say to

3136
02:05:26,870 --> 02:05:24,420
those True Believers that think it's a

3137
02:05:28,189 --> 02:05:26,880
good idea to get me shadow banned

3138
02:05:31,430 --> 02:05:28,199
you know

3139
02:05:33,709 --> 02:05:31,440
if you if your arguments are so weak

3140
02:05:35,689 --> 02:05:33,719
that they can't withstand debate you

3141
02:05:38,209 --> 02:05:35,699
don't belong in the debate

3142
02:05:41,209 --> 02:05:38,219
uh we're not doing anything wrong here

3143
02:05:43,609 --> 02:05:41,219
we are investigating stories taking our

3144
02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:43,619
audience with us along for the ride and

3145
02:05:50,689 --> 02:05:47,040
Reporting what we find I think that that

3146
02:05:52,669 --> 02:05:50,699
is a noble Endeavor uh and I'm glad for

3147
02:05:56,089 --> 02:05:52,679
the support of most of you who agree

3148
02:05:58,129 --> 02:05:56,099
with me and to those that don't we're

3149
02:05:59,689 --> 02:05:58,139
still providing new information that I

3150
02:06:02,089 --> 02:05:59,699
would think that most of you would find

3151
02:06:05,930 --> 02:06:02,099
valuable like this so-called

3152
02:06:09,050 --> 02:06:05,940
whistleblower David Gersh is

3153
02:06:10,850 --> 02:06:09,060
apparently having closed door non-public

3154
02:06:13,010 --> 02:06:10,860
meetings with members of Canadian

3155
02:06:15,169 --> 02:06:13,020
Parliament I would think that you would

3156
02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:15,179
think if you believe this man it makes

3157
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:17,280
him more credible or more believable

3158
02:06:21,290 --> 02:06:18,719
somehow and you would want that

3159
02:06:23,629 --> 02:06:21,300
information but when you silence people

3160
02:06:25,250 --> 02:06:23,639
like me who are actually investigating

3161
02:06:27,109 --> 02:06:25,260
these things

3162
02:06:29,450 --> 02:06:27,119
you lose that you could lose that

3163
02:06:31,490 --> 02:06:29,460
information not happy to hear that I'm

3164
02:06:34,250 --> 02:06:31,500
somehow search banned or Shadow banned

3165
02:06:36,890 --> 02:06:34,260
on Twitter it's the first time I've ever

3166
02:06:39,410 --> 02:06:36,900
become aware that you can you know Mass

3167
02:06:41,390 --> 02:06:39,420
report somebody's tweets to get that to

3168
02:06:43,609 --> 02:06:41,400
happen and I'll be taking that up with

3169
02:06:45,770 --> 02:06:43,619
Twitter because uh nothing that I'm

3170
02:06:47,810 --> 02:06:45,780
doing on Twitter is against YouTube or

3171
02:06:50,870 --> 02:06:47,820
excuse me against Twitter's terms of

3172
02:06:53,169 --> 02:06:50,880
service at all I'm sharing shows where

3173
02:06:56,990 --> 02:06:53,179
we investigate these claims and Report

3174
02:06:58,010 --> 02:06:57,000
what we find there's certainly I don't

3175
02:07:00,229 --> 02:06:58,020
think there's anything wrong with that

3176
02:07:01,189 --> 02:07:00,239
but it is what it is

3177
02:07:04,609 --> 02:07:01,199
um

3178
02:07:08,330 --> 02:07:04,619
a long time ago a man much wiser than me

3179
02:07:09,530 --> 02:07:08,340
taught me a saying that I love which is

3180
02:07:11,450 --> 02:07:09,540
this

3181
02:07:14,030 --> 02:07:11,460
he said Stephen

3182
02:07:16,729 --> 02:07:14,040
they don't try to tackle you unless

3183
02:07:19,250 --> 02:07:16,739
you're the guy running with the ball

3184
02:07:21,290 --> 02:07:19,260
always be happy when people are trying

3185
02:07:25,550 --> 02:07:21,300
to tackle you Steve and that means that

3186
02:07:30,709 --> 02:07:27,169
I think that's I think that's great

3187
02:07:33,890 --> 02:07:30,719
advice so I'm going to continue uh to be

3188
02:07:35,870 --> 02:07:33,900
the guy running with the ball uh and oh

3189
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:35,880
we want to thank trolley troll troll for

3190
02:07:39,950 --> 02:07:37,920
a Kind and Generous ten dollars more for

3191
02:07:42,169 --> 02:07:39,960
him happy birthday cash Clan thank you

3192
02:07:44,149 --> 02:07:42,179
all I appreciate it his birthday is

3193
02:07:47,450 --> 02:07:44,159
Sunday we're having a big family party

3194
02:07:50,390 --> 02:07:47,460
with a bubble machine and a bounce house

3195
02:07:52,550 --> 02:07:50,400
and I think Elmo which is strange

3196
02:07:54,169 --> 02:07:52,560
because I thought he was over Elmo but

3197
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:54,179
he goes to uh

3198
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:56,639
he goes to we're right near Sesame Place

3199
02:08:01,189 --> 02:07:58,800
in Pennsylvania which is awesome you can

3200
02:08:03,709 --> 02:08:01,199
go there and meet Big Bird and Bert and

3201
02:08:06,589 --> 02:08:03,719
Ernie and Cookie Monster and Elmo and

3202
02:08:09,290 --> 02:08:06,599
all that stuff so we got season passes

3203
02:08:11,570 --> 02:08:09,300
he goes all the time uh but we're gonna

3204
02:08:13,910 --> 02:08:11,580
have a great uh family birthday party

3205
02:08:16,669 --> 02:08:13,920
and we thank you all for your kindness

3206
02:08:19,250 --> 02:08:16,679
generosity and support uh we want to

3207
02:08:21,890 --> 02:08:19,260
thank all of you uh and we'll have the

3208
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:21,900
uh cash clown himself thank you all for

3209
02:08:28,070 --> 02:08:25,679
helping us of course uh helping us to

3210
02:08:33,970 --> 02:08:28,080
praise the cash thank you all for your

3211
02:08:38,140 --> 02:08:36,950
thank you for your kindness thank you

3212
02:08:48,070 --> 02:08:38,150
for your driver

3213
02:08:53,330 --> 02:08:50,810
all right friends so I will be back

3214
02:08:55,010 --> 02:08:53,340
tomorrow night 9 p.m Eastern Standard

3215
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:55,020
Time it might be the last show for the

3216
02:08:59,570 --> 02:08:57,840
week uh because I'm going to be going to

3217
02:09:02,030 --> 02:08:59,580
the cabin early this week on Thursday

3218
02:09:04,070 --> 02:09:02,040
night uh so we get our three shows in

3219
02:09:05,870 --> 02:09:04,080
Monday Tuesday Wednesday the last one

3220
02:09:07,550 --> 02:09:05,880
should be tomorrow night but I am going

3221
02:09:09,890 --> 02:09:07,560
to do a show from the cabin this weekend

3222
02:09:11,629 --> 02:09:09,900
I tried last weekend there was a

3223
02:09:13,970 --> 02:09:11,639
tremendous hail storm and a power

3224
02:09:17,570 --> 02:09:13,980
failure I couldn't do a show if I wanted

3225
02:09:19,729 --> 02:09:17,580
to no power no router nothing so I

3226
02:09:22,129 --> 02:09:19,739
apologize for that but uh we have a show

3227
02:09:23,629 --> 02:09:22,139
tomorrow night here at 9 00 PM Eastern

3228
02:09:27,109 --> 02:09:23,639
Standard Time then I'll be doing a show

3229
02:09:30,109 --> 02:09:27,119
at some point uh from the cabin so we

3230
02:09:33,229 --> 02:09:30,119
thank you all uh we thank Our Kind and

3231
02:09:36,050 --> 02:09:33,239
Generous benefactors uh we thank Mr Ian

3232
02:09:38,510 --> 02:09:36,060
spooky and our guest tonight Manny we

3233
02:09:41,089 --> 02:09:38,520
thank all of you for being in the live

3234
02:09:42,770 --> 02:09:41,099
audience we had tremendous uh attendance

3235
02:09:44,390 --> 02:09:42,780
in the live chat tonight which I'm

3236
02:09:46,250 --> 02:09:44,400
always happy to see thank you all for

3237
02:09:48,770 --> 02:09:46,260
being here please join me tomorrow night

3238
02:09:51,530 --> 02:09:48,780
9 pm Eastern Standard time I'm going to

3239
02:09:53,810 --> 02:09:51,540
have a very special show for you and I

3240
02:09:55,550 --> 02:09:53,820
hope you'll be here so that's all I got

3241
02:09:57,709 --> 02:09:55,560
for you friends until next time my name

3242
02:10:22,570 --> 02:09:57,719
is Stephen cambian good night and God

3243
02:10:22,580 --> 02:10:34,070
thank you

3244
02:11:01,310 --> 02:10:35,510
foreign

3245
02:11:03,820 --> 02:11:01,320
[Music]

3246
02:11:28,930 --> 02:11:03,830
thank you

3247
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:01,030
[Music]

3248
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:02,110
thank you

3249
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:16,890
[Music]

3250
02:13:00,609 --> 02:12:35,370
thank you

3251
02:13:02,250 --> 02:13:00,619
[Music]

3252
02:13:11,060 --> 02:13:02,260
thank you